Tuesday, February 8, 2011

Mike TesKo on ammunition....,,I need to read through all this information and place it in context along with the findings from forensic of Sheilas body..this will take somtime.



Ammunition Contradictions...
« on: December 06, 2010, 09:23:PM »
Ammunition Contradictions

According to the Pathologists Report, some of the bullet entry wounds , which relate to the five victims, measured 1/4 inch in diameter, others 3/16ths of an inch in diameter, and five others that were 1/2 inch in diameter - How could the .22 Bamber rifle, have fired all of these bullets?

Impossible?



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Re: Ammunition Contradictions...
« Reply #1 on: December 06, 2010, 09:29:PM »
Abracadabra - one gun fired all of the bullets that made these different bullet entry wounds?


Based upon the sizes of the bullet entry wounds inflicted upon the five victims, is it possible that three different weapons were used in the shootings?

Weapon (1) which fired bullets that made 1/4 inch bullet entry wounds
Weapon (2) which fired bullets that made 3/16ths of an  inch bullet entry wounds
Weapon (3) which fired bullets that made 1/2 inch bullet entry wounds

To whom could these three weapons have belonged to?

(a) Bamber family?
(b) Relatives?
(c) Police?

« Last Edit: December 09, 2010, 11:22:AM by mike tesko »



Re: Ammunition Contradictions...
« Reply #2 on: December 07, 2010, 05:16:PM »
Features of the Case


Lets get the facts right so there can be no misunderstanding:-

(1) Incident at whf happened on 7th August 1985

(2) Autopsy of Sheila and Ralph took place on same date

(3) autopsies on June, Daniel and Nicholas took place on 8th August 1985

(4) Opening of inquest took place on 14th August 1985

(5) Bodies of Ralph, June and Sheila cremated by 20th August 1985 (subject to correction)

(6) Bodies of Daniel and Nicholas, buried at Highgate cemetery, by 22nd August 1985 (subject to correction)

(7) Nature of investigation changed from four murders and a suicide, into five murders on or by 6th September 1985

Up until this stage, there had been no work done to identify the weapons used to shoot and kill all five members of the Bamber family during the incident at whf on 7th August 1985...

(8) Vital evidence had been destroyed by the police who burnt bloodstained carpets from the main bedroom on a bonfire in the grounds of whf, on 9th August 1985, before Essex police handed back the keys to whf over to the relatives that same evening...

(9) Of significance, was the fact that there existed a large circular bloodstain on the carpet from the main bedroom which the police destroyed, found in the general area where the body of Sheila Caffell ended up dead by 8:30am...

Key feature being:-

Why would the police want to destroyed bloodstain evidence on the bedroom carpet which might have been linked or connected to Sheila's death there?

« Last Edit: December 09, 2010, 11:21:AM by mike tesko »



Re: Ammunition Contradictions...
« Reply #3 on: December 08, 2010, 07:35:PM »
Puzzling features of the case


By 8:41am, on the 7th August 1985, Police Inspector Bob Miller and the police surgeon, Dr Craig, entered the main bedroom, and checked the body of Sheila Caffell - in their respective witness statements they would both record for the fact that Sheila had a single wound to her throat...

On 14th August 1985, at the opening of the inquest, PI Miller told the Deputy Coroner, Mr Thompkin, that Sheila had shot the others, and that she had then taken her own life, by way of a solitary shot...

As a result of being told this by PI Miller, Mr Thompkin authorized the release of the five bodies for burial and cremation, no mention was ever made of the weapons used to kill everyone, nobody seemed interested by that stage, despite the fact that the Pathologist, Peter Venezis, had established that some of the wounds which had been inflicted upon the victims had bullet entry wounds which measured, 1/4 of an inch, others 3/16ths of an inch, and five others which measured 1/2 inch in diameter...

Where were the guns that had been used to fire these bullets?

The five bodes were duly disposed of, and the case would have been destined for the archives, but for the perseverance of relatives, who could not accept that Sheila had killed everyone, including her own children, and her parents, and that she had taken taken her own life?

On the same day that Robert Woodwis Boutflour went to see ACC Peter Simpson and managed to persuade him to start a fresh investigation (6th September 1985) Julie Mugford also came forward, on a voluntary basis, along with her best friend - strange how these two events should fall on the same date, almost a month after the date of the shootings inside whf...


« Last Edit: December 09, 2010, 11:20:AM by mike tesko »



Re: Ammunition Contradictions...
« Reply #4 on: December 08, 2010, 07:55:PM »
Inquest deceived about number of injuries, Sheila had to her throat


Anyone who has ever seen the shocking photograph which was published on the front page of the daily Express, which shows fresh blood running, leaking and pouring from the two wounds upon Sheila's throat, will not be able to understand, how Police inspector Bob Miller, and the police Surgeon, Dr Craig, could only have seen one wound upon Sheila's throat, at 8:41am?

More disturbingly, why PI Miller was allowed to only mention one wound upon Sheila's throat at the opening of the inquest, when she clearly had two different ones?

View image published on front page of Daily Express at following link:-

(1) http://www.flickr.com/photos/miketeskowski/5244216527/
« Last Edit: December 09, 2010, 11:19:AM by mike tesko »



Re: Ammunition Contradictions...
« Reply #5 on: December 08, 2010, 08:06:PM »
Was Sheila laid in a different position at 8:41am?


In my view, there can only be two possible explanations for why PI Bob Miller, and the police surgeon, Dr Craig, only saw one wound upon Sheila's throat by 8:41am:-

(1) She was laid upon her right side in the recovery position, and the wound on the right side of her neck was hidden from the view of Miller and Craig, and or

(2) She was shot for the second time, later
« Last Edit: December 09, 2010, 11:18:AM by mike tesko »



Re: Ammunition Contradictions...
« Reply #6 on: December 08, 2010, 08:16:PM »
Why did PI Miller, and Dr Craig, only see one wound on Sheila's throat, at 8:41am?


If Sheila was laid upon her right hand side, so that her body was effectively in the recovery position by 8:41am, there could not have been a gun laid out along the middle of her body with the barrel of the gun close to her chin, and this means that at some stage after 8:41am, the police placed that rifle there in order for PC Bird to photograph it there, in accordance with other crime scene pictures he took of Sheila's body...

No explanation has yet been given for the absence of the rifle or a gun from Sheila's body prior to 11:15am, that morning...

Yet, based upon the observations of PI Bob Miller, and the police surgeon, Dr Craig, at 8:41am, there could not possibly have been a gun resting on her body at that stage, otherwise they would have almost certainly been able to see two wounds there on her throat, not one?

Perhaps, relevant to this matter, is the fact that at about 9am, when PS Adams entered the bedroom, he told COLP (1991) that he had no recollection of a gun being on the body at that stage...

The Coroners Officer, PC Wright, also made a statement to COLP saying that at about 9:25am, that morning, he does not remember there being a gun present on top of Sheila's body, at that stage...

But by 10 O'clock when PC David Bird started to take his pictures of Sheila in the bedroom, suddenly the Bamber rifle is there, and Sheila has two wounds on her throat, not one...

Key Feature:- Bamber rifle was placed on top of Sheila's body, and her hands arranged around and upon the gun, at some stage between 9:25am and 10 O'clock...

Her body was rolled over from its original position of being in the recovery position on its right side, so that she was laid out in the supine position, on her back - and then the rifle was placed onto her body by the police...

« Last Edit: December 09, 2010, 11:17:AM by mike tesko »



Re: Ammunition Contradictions...
« Reply #7 on: December 08, 2010, 08:32:PM »
SOCO delayed before they took control of crime scene


DCI "Taff" Jones, who was in charge of the original investigation (SC/688/85) which focused upon the suggestion that Sheila killed the others and then herself, arrived at the scene, at 9:05am - he was not aware and had not been informed prior to this, according to his statement, that anyone had been shot, or that anyone had actually died, prior to his arrival at the scene...

DCI Jones, was therefore, present at the scene for about 20 minutes whilst Sheila's body was laid out in the bedroom minus any gun upon it...

Scenes of Crime officers (SOCO) arrived at the scene at 9:20am (some 15 minutes after DCI Jones), but they were prevented from taking control of the crime scene until 10 O'clock, whilst senior police officers inside whf went about formulating their theories, and in general, stage managing the scene to fit in with those theories...
« Last Edit: December 09, 2010, 11:16:AM by mike tesko »



Re: Ammunition Contradictions...
« Reply #8 on: December 08, 2010, 08:38:PM »
DCI Jones demonstrates how Sheila could have shot herself twice?


It is now known, that DCI Jones spent some time trying to persuade other Senior police officers who were present inside whf, how Sheila could have shot herself twice, in quick succession, by use of the Bamber .22 semi-automatic rifle - This explanation could only have taken place between 9:05am and about 10 O'clock, before the crime scene was handed over to scenes of crime officers...

DCI Jones used a broom handle to demonstrate how Sheila could have shot herself twice, by a process of recoil, where the gun had gone off in quick succession, twice...

DCI Jones, had an audience of:-

DCI Harris
DCS Gibbons
PI Miller
DI Cook
PI Montgomery
PS Woodcock
« Last Edit: December 09, 2010, 11:15:AM by mike tesko »



Re: Ammunition Contradictions...
« Reply #9 on: December 08, 2010, 08:59:PM »
Who put gun on body?

Who moved gun onto body, and moved it around into different positions?

See images at following link:-

(1) http://www.flickr.com/photos/miketeskowski/5244950608/in/set-72157625432700113/

Jeremy got the blame for moving the gun onto the body, and for stage managing it there, and arranging Sheila's hands upon and around the gun, to make it look like or appear as though she had taken her own life - yet, these crime scene pictures tell a completely different story:-

THE POLICE STAGE MANAGED SHEILA'S BODY TO MAKE IT LOOK LIKE SHE HAD TAKEN HER OWN LIFE, irrespective of where she did or not...
« Last Edit: December 09, 2010, 11:14:AM by mike tesko »



Re: Ammunition Contradictions...
« Reply #10 on: December 08, 2010, 09:37:PM »
Ammunition Contradictions

Amongst the seven wounds inflicted upon June Bamber, two of them had 1/2 inch diameter entry wounds...

Similarly, amongst the eight wounds inflicted upon Ralph Bamber, three of these had 1/2 inch diameter entry wounds...

None of these five 1/2 inch diameter wounds could have been inflicted by bullets fired through the Bamber rifle, which is only .22 caliber...
« Last Edit: December 09, 2010, 11:12:AM by mike tesko »



Re: Ammunition Contradictions...
« Reply #11 on: December 09, 2010, 11:08:AM »
Crime scene weapon

Once the investigation, changed and altered, from SC/688/85, to SC/786/85, Essex police made this case into a one weapon murder investigation, under which Jeremy was prosecuted and convicted, but a careful study of the facts does not support this scenario...

Bamber rifle (.22 semi-automatic) could not have fired all the bullets which made all of the following bullet entry wounds, measuring:-

(a) 1/4 of an inch
(b) 3/16ths of an inch
(c) 1/2 an inch

I am prepared to accept that the Bamber rifle could have made the 1/4/ and 3/16ths of an inch bullet entry wounds, because these differences are very small and it might be Dependant upon the distance that some shots were fired from, or the different areas of the body where bullets entered the victims body's, but these factors cannot be the correct interpretation for the difference between the size of these, and the other five 1/2 inch diameter bullet entry wounds...
« Last Edit: December 12, 2010, 03:48:PM by mike tesko »