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Check Path for burn marks and 'Unique weapon' claimed by Mike ?

Circular Burn Marks on back of Ralph Bambers neck

Pathologist. Peter Venezis, identified a number of circular burn marks on the back of  Ralph's neck, which could have been made when the barrel of a gun was thrust into position, when Ralph Bamber could have been forced downstairs to the kitchen phone, and made to call Jeremy (3:25am) - according to a theory by DCI "Taff" Jones...

However, if true...

Why would Sheila force Ralph to contact police (3:26am) a minute later?
« Last Edit: January 27, 2011, 08:06:PM by mike tesko »

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Re: Circular Burn Marks on back of Ralph Bambers neck...
« Reply #1 on: January 27, 2011, 08:08:PM »
Did Ralph trick Sheila into believing that Ralph was trying to re-establish contact with Jeremy, (after originally speaking to him at 3:25am), at the time he made contact with the police at 3:26am?

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Re: Circular Burn Marks on back of Ralph Bambers neck...
« Reply #2 on: January 27, 2011, 08:58:PM »
Distinctive circular markings on Ralph's neck

The pathologist found two distinctive circular marks on the back of Ralph's neck, one which had an inner circular mark, one inside the other, and a separate circular mark above it...

Nothing found at the scene, which could have produced those marks...

However, a unique weapon was handed into the police soon after the shootings, by a friend of the family, who refused to name the person who had handed it to him. The person who handed it into the police asked the police if they could keep it, but the request was declined...

This unique weapon, consisted of a combination rifle come shotgun, with the barrel of the shotgun, overlaid a top with the barrel of a .22 rifle...

It remains possible, that the marks which were made on the back of Ralph Bambers neck, could have been made when the barrels of this weapon were thrust into the back of Ralph Bambers neck at the scene, before or after he was killed...

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Re: Circular Burn Marks on back of Ralph Bambers neck...
« Reply #3 on: January 27, 2011, 11:50:PM »
Mike, the pictures that I've seen of Ralph's body in the kitchen are grainy, but do you think that because his hair had flopped forward, it might have been presumed that he was female? Or did the original statement describe two bodies, in different parts of the kitchen? Again, I'm sorry if this has already been explained. The marks on his arms look smooth and could co-incide with them being draped over the coal scuttle. If he had have been tied up, by Sheila, would that not have happened after he was incapacitated, and if so, why? To wait for Jeremy? But for what it's worth, I've always thought that Taff Jones was conveniently murdered. Good luck, Mike, you are doing an amazing job.

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Re: Circular Burn Marks on back of Ralph Bambers neck...
« Reply #4 on: January 28, 2011, 12:05:AM »
Just one more thing, Mike. If Sheila was interested in witchcraft, the number 3 would have been very important to her.

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Re: Circular Burn Marks on back of Ralph Bambers neck...
« Reply #5 on: January 28, 2011, 08:14:AM »
Mike, the pictures that I've seen of Ralph's body in the kitchen are grainy, but do you think that because his hair had flopped forward, it might have been presumed that he was female? Or did the original statement describe two bodies, in different parts of the kitchen? Again, I'm sorry if this has already been explained. The marks on his arms look smooth and could co-incide with them being draped over the coal scuttle. If he had have been tied up, by Sheila, would that not have happened after he was incapacitated, and if so, why? To wait for Jeremy? But for what it's worth, I've always thought that Taff Jones was conveniently murdered. Good luck, Mike, you are doing an amazing job.
........,                    ralphs bndy war not found in the position it is photographed in, it was moved into that position later once the raid team forced thier way into the kitchen, therefore, it would not have been possible to see ralphs body from the vantage point of outside the kitchen window. Looking into the kitchen...             his body was stage managed once it was toppled over from its original positiom behind the internal kitchen door. His body was originally positioned in a blind spot and could not possibly have been seen whilst it was in that position...       

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Re: Circular Burn Marks on back of Ralph Bambers neck...
« Reply #6 on: January 28, 2011, 03:24:PM »
Hi Mike,

You refer to a "unique weapon" being handed into the police with a .22/shotgun barrel configuration that matched burn marks found on the back of Nevill's neck.

Are you suggesting this "unique weapon", and the possible connection to the burn marks on Nevill's neck, is to do with Shelia, at some point, using this weapon in addition to the .22 Anschutz?

I assume that the weapon, if used at all at whf, was used before police entered whf.

Or has this again a possible connection with the X, Y & Z factors (which I appreciate you cannot comment in detail on now)?

Has it ever been disclosed as to where this "unique weapon" was found?

And could you also explain why you think these burn marks may have been caused "after he was killed" or is this just a caveat?

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Re: Circular Burn Marks on back of Ralph Bambers neck...
« Reply #7 on: January 28, 2011, 04:41:PM »
Mike,

Just another point on the "unique weapon" - are the police still in possession of this weapon or are its whereabouts known?

Thanks,
Newbury1

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Re: Circular Burn Marks on back of Ralph Bambers neck...
« Reply #8 on: January 28, 2011, 05:02:PM »
You got any comment on today's newspaper reports Mike ?

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Re: Circular Burn Marks on back of Ralph Bambers neck...
« Reply #9 on: January 28, 2011, 05:17:PM »
Mail , Mirror , Telegraph and Channel 4 news !!

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Re: Circular Burn Marks on back of Ralph Bambers neck...
« Reply #10 on: January 28, 2011, 06:28:PM »
You got any comment on today's newspaper reports Mike ?
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Jon:- The world now knows that the body of Sheila was stage managed, to make out a case for suicide, and the gun moved on, and off her body, by somebody, and more importantly, the truth about who stage mamaged shiela's body, and who put the gun on, and off the body, is on the verge of being disclosed, Jeremy got blamed for something these mystery men at the scene between 9:00am and 9:22am,  were responsible for doing...
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Re: Circular Burn Marks on back of Ralph Bambers neck...
« Reply #11 on: January 28, 2011, 06:46:PM »
Cheers Mike, Good Luck !

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Re: Circular Burn Marks on back of Ralph Bambers neck...
« Reply #12 on: January 31, 2011, 10:40:AM »
Mike,

I appreciate that today is a significant day for Jeremy, his legal ream and you, but if you have time, could you please answer my posts on the "unique weapon"?

Thanks
Newbury1

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Re: Circular Burn Marks on back of Ralph Bambers neck...
« Reply #13 on: February 01, 2011, 10:57:PM »
Mike,

Just another point on the "unique weapon" - are the police still in possession of this weapon or are its whereabouts known?

Thanks,
Newbury1
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It was not destroyed as far as I am aware...

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Re: Circular Burn Marks on back of Ralph Bambers neck...
« Reply #14 on: February 03, 2011, 04:54:PM »
Distinctive circular markings on Ralph's neck

The pathologist found two distinctive circular marks on the back of Ralph's neck, one which had an inner circular mark, one inside the other, and a separate circular mark above it...

Nothing found at the scene, which could have produced those marks...

However, a unique weapon was handed into the police soon after the shootings, by a friend of the family, who refused to name the person who had handed it to him. The person who handed it into the police asked the police if they could keep it, but the request was declined...

This unique weapon, consisted of a combination rifle come shotgun, with the barrel of the shotgun, overlaid a top with the barrel of a .22 rifle...

It remains possible, that the marks which were made on the back of Ralph Bambers neck, could have been made when the barrels of this weapon were thrust into the back of Ralph Bambers neck at the scene, before or after he was killed...


Could I please have some Forum comments on this thread?