Wednesday, February 9, 2011

Access to different parts of whf was governed by entry through internal kitchen door

The internal kitchen door behind which the body of Ralph Bamber was situated on the large wooden chair, gave key access to part of the house where the five bodies were discovered. For example, Once the firearms officers smashed the external house door in, it afforded them access to the rear hallway, the downstairs office where the gun cupboard was situiated, the back stairs and an upstairs office and a storeroom. They could not enter to other parts of the house because a door which led between the upstairs office and the bathroom was locked and bolted on the bathroom side of the door and therefore the firearms officers could not venture further into the house by that route.

Instead, they had to return downstairs to the internal kitchen door and try to force that open.

At the time they approached the internal kitchen door they were unsure as to what was behind it. One of the firearms officers had looked into the kitchen via the kitchen window and had reported seeing the body of a female in the kitchen, but they could not see what was obstructing the internal kitchen door because the door itself was in a blindspot.

It was only after the police inside the house had managed to push the obstruction out of the way, and the police were able to set foot inside the kitchen, that they realized that the obstruiction had been Ralph Bambers body on the chair.

Forcing the internal kitchen door open allowed the firearms officers to search all the downstairs rooms, and then the upstairs rooms, where all the dead bodies were eventually found or located..

Similarly, no-one would have been able to get out from the kitchen to the gun cupboard to hide a silencer inside it, because of Ralph's body blocking the doorway.

That internal kitchen doorway was therefore a key feature which govenered access to different parts of the house by the police and any would be killer who might have wanted to hide the silencer in the gun cupboard after Sheila was killed..

In my opinion,I do not believe the silencer was used in Sheila's killing upstairs in the bedroom, otherwise it would have been found there by the police, as Sheila died in the main bedroom after the armed police were already inside the premises. Therre simply would not have been any time or opportunity for anyone to remove the silencer from the gun and to take it downstairs to hide it inside the gun cupboard, unless it was the police themselves who did it. I am against this idea, becaue we now know that PC Delgado and PS Woodcock searched the gun cupboard that morning and found a shotgun and various types of ammunitions inside it. There was no bloodstained silencer inside that gun cupboard on the morning of 7th August 1985 its as simple as that.

Neither PC Delgado opr PS Woodcock attended court to be questioned as to whether or not the silencer was present inside the gun cupboard on the morning of 7th August 1985, but by Saturday, 10th August 1985, according to the relatives it was there. We only have the relatives word that the silencer was there inside the gun cupboard at that time, since, they did not call the police and say "hey, we founmd a bloodstained silencer in the gun cupboard we want you to come back to the scene and take possesion of it" but instead, they removed the silencer from the scene and took it home where it was kept by them for two days and only then did they contact the police to tell them what they had allegedly found. This part of the evidence surounding the introduction of the silencer is very dodgy. It is dodgy because when the relatives took it away from the scene, one of them had tried to unscrew the end cap of the silencer to look inside it. Furthermore, we now know that the same relative used a razor blade to scrape off a small flake of dried blood from the flat surface on the end cap of the silencer and that he retainmed this flake - but to this day we still do not know what happened to that small flake of blood. One thing is certauin, however, and that is that the relatives appear to have tampered with the silencers intergrity and no-one seems to mind about that..

These are the same relatives who were telling Essex police that they did not think Sheila could have killed the othjers and then herself and that in their opinion, Jeremy had got something to do with it. These are the same relatives who inherited the Bambers parents estate(s) as a result of Jeremy Bamber being convicted for the murders..
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    Policeman confirms other officers moved and disturbed the body of Sheila Caffell before 10 am..

    Police sergeant Adams was the commander of the police operation inside whf on the morning of the incident. He co-ordinated the raid for six of his armed officers to enter the building by smashing in the external door with use of a sledge hammer. He was relieved of his duties as the commander of the ooperation at about 8:15am, when Police Inspector Montgomery took control from inside the kitchen at the scene.

    At 9am, PS Adams went into the premises and viewed the body of Sheila Caffell in the main bedroom.

    Later that evening at a de-brief,which was attended by all the members of the firearms team who had taken part in the police operation at the scene, and senior officers who were responsible for putting a case together, they were shown a series of crime scene photographs which had been taken by SOC PC Bird after which, PS Adams expressed his concern that the victims body was in a totally different position to that which he had seen it in when he veiwed the body at 9am, that same morning. For example, he told senior officers that Sheila's body was further away from the edge of the bed at 9am and that her head was not next to a bedside cabinet as shown in PC Birds photograohs. He also told senior officers that there was no gun on the body at all at 9am, whereas the photographs taken by PC Bird show a rifle laid along the top of her body and the victims hands placed or positioned upon and around the gun. Finally, he expressed his concern that the bible which was shown resting partially upon Sheila's arm had been elsewhere on the bedroom floor and had been situated some 15 to 18 inches away from the region of Sheila caffells waist at 9am, when he had visited the scene.

    Senior officers instructed PS Adams to toe the line and forget what he had seen, because this was a clear case of four murders and a suicide, and that officers should write their reports up as thiough the bodies of the five victims had been found exactly as they were shown in PC Birds crime scene photographs. PS Adams was not very happy with this staste of affairs and had an immense argument with his senior officers about it.

    Despite knowning that Sheila caffells body had been desturbed and moved by police officers at the scene, PS Adams did not attend court during Bambers trial to tell the court what he had witnessed. As a result, when the jury were given the court album containing 50 crime scene photograohs which had been preselected to supoport the prosecutions case, they were led to believe that Sheila'sbody had been found in the main bedroom exactly as it was shown in PC Birds crime scene pictures taken from 10 am that morning..

    It was not until 1992, when PS Adams was being interviewed by the COLP investigating officers, that he told the truth about Sheila'sbody having been moved and repositioned by the police at the scebne after he left the scene soon after 9am, that morning..

    Bamber, his legal team and the jury were not aware that the police at the scene had moved and disturbed Sheila caffells body before PC Bird took his crime scene photographs..

    Fact of the matter is, that PC Birds crime scene photograohs did not show the exact position in which Sheila caffells body had been found when the opolice got into the premises, only the position it was in at and from 10 am that morning..


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    The guilty refuse to speak up..

    There are some who know the truth behind what really took place once the six firearms officers forced their way into whf on the morning of 7th August 1985. To date, despite over 23 years having elapsed since those events, only one police officer, Police Sergeant Adams (the commander of the firearms operation at the scene) has come forward to speak about the truth. He has come forward in 1992, to confirm that police officers at the scene who were present inside the house after 9am when he left, moved the body of Sheila Caffell, and they stage managed it to make it look like or appear as though she had taken her own life. Police Sergeant Adams, brought these facts to the attention of senior police officers who were conducting a de-brief on the evening of the incident and also to the COLP investigators in 1992

    Yet, the six armed officers who were the first to enter the kitchen refuse to come forward and speak about what is the truth, or not. In this respect, PS Woodcock, PC Collins, PC Delgado, PC Manners, PC Alexander-smart and PC Rozga, have all remained tight lipped and refuse to be drawn into any debate about where the five bodies were really found once they had got into the premies and whether or not any of the five bodies had been stage managed after they had left the scene at just after 9am?

    All that would be required would be for the crime scene photographs which were taken by SOC PC Bird at and from 10 O'clock that morning to be shown to these six officers and each one of them be asked "were the bodies in these piositions when you stumbled upon them inside the building, for the very first time?

    This exercise has not been undertaken because Essex police know that the bodies were moved by its own officers inside the kitchen, and main bedroom, after the firearms team had left the scene..

    What is also required, is for each member of the SOC team to be asked to confirm that none of them touched or moved any of the bodies before PC Bird took his pictures and that the five bodies were in the exact same positions when they first entered the scene as those shown in the crime scene pictures taken at and from 10 O'clock that morning.

    Next, we need to produce a comprehensive list of all the police officers and other persons who were present inside whf between the occasion when the firearms officers left the scene at just after 9am and 9:20am when SOC arrived at the scene. Only then will we be able to identify those who really were resoponsible for stage managing Sheila Caffells body in the main bedroom and Ralph Bambers body in the kitchen..

    I think everyone will find that the guilty parties will refuse to speak or to make any comment about these matters, through fear of being prosecuted, convicted and incarcerated..

    There is something which the reader ought really to be made aware of and that is that when the members of the six man raid team were interviewed by the COLP investigators, each was asked if there was anything in what they witnessed at the scene to make them think or believe that this was anything other than a straight forward case of four murders and a suicide? All of them to the last man resplied with an emphatic "NO".

    The idea that Sheila Caffell had not committed suiicde, did not stem from the vfews of the firearms officers who went into the premises, and who found the five bodies of the victims, but from the opinions of the relatives and other police officers who were not present at the scene, but who were drafted in after 6th September 1985, to reinvestigate the incident friom the beginning.....


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    Sixth Body Bag requested to be brought to the scene..

    A message was passed from the scene for a sixth body bag to be brought to the scene despite there only appearing to be five dead bodies?

    Was there a sixth body?

    Who owned the mysterious black handbag which was photoghraphed on the kitchen worktop next to a box of spilled .22 bullets and the telephone with its handset off its cradle?

    The possibility that a sixth body was found at the scene cannot easily be overlooked or dismissed, because it remains possible that for one reasson or another the female body found in the kitchen (see police message log contents, timed at 7:37am and 7:38am) was the sixth body being spoken about which Essex police have covered up..

    If Sheila Caffells body had always been upstairs in the main bedroom, then Essex police are responsible for covering up for the involvement of a sixth victim (or the sole suspect) in these crimes? Did the firearms team shoot the female victim once they forced their way into the kitchen and is this the source for the reference relating to the officers action report regarding the shooting incident in the kitchen, the contents of which have deliberately been concealed?

    Why were six body bags requested at the scene if there were only five bodies?


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    Undisclosed statement of PC Collins..

    PC Collins made a second witness statement in which he describes looking through the kitchen window into the kitchen, just before he and five other armed officers smashed the door in and went into the building. Collins states that he reported that he could see a female body in the kitchen, but later when they eventually got into the kitchen he states that the body he had previously identified as being female turned out to be the body of Ralph Bamber.

    This statement was not disclosed to Bamber, his legal team or to the court which tried Bamber, but kept from him and all thee people just like the rest iof the incriminating evidence.

    Please allow me to demonstrate how and why what PC Collins is saying in this additional statement, is false and untrue.

    If the contents of this statement had been disclosed to Bamber and his legal team at his trial, there is no doubt that the cuircumsdtances of Ralph bambers death and where his body had originally been found by the armed police once they entered the farmhouse would have been looked into more closely. In this respect, the armed officers who actually went into the house would have been summonjed to court and questioned as to the precise position that rakph bambers body had been in when they tried to enter the kitchen by the blocked internal door? I am confident that a skilled QC would have been able to elicit information from the officers that raklph's body had been sat on the chair behind the door through which they had to pass through to get into the kitchen and that it blocked and prevented the armed police from progressing further into the building and therefore it had to be toppled over. The toppling over of Ralph Bambers body from the chair behind the door took several minutes to complete and the net result was that Ralkph's body ended up on the kitchen floor by the corner of the aga cooking stove.

    Once thisa was established, I feel confident that Bambers QC would have sought to establish that with Ralph's body sat n that chair behind the door it would have been somewhat impossible for PC Collins to see his body sat there because that area behind the door was siituated in a blind spot when looking in that direction from the vantage of the kitchen window. As such, PC Collins coukld not have made the mistake of misidentifying the body as a female when it was a male one, becuase he would not have been able to see Raph Bambers body at all on the chair behind the door for all the reasons given.

    If we take Ralph Bamber out of the equation, we are left with a body which Collins describes initially as a female body, but which he says was in reality a male body (the body of Ralph Bamber), we are left with the possibility that there was a second male body found in the kitchen, i.e. mistakenly identifed as a female body from the vantage point of the kitchen window. However, according to the police there were only five bodies, one adult male, two adult females and two children.

    Nevertheless, why was a request sent from the scene for six body bags to be brought to the scene, if there was only five bodies?

    PC Collins explanation about mistakenly identfying the body as a female when it turned out to be male, does not hold water, for the following reasons:-

    The sighting of the female body occurred before the police had started their entry to get into the house, yet according to the contents of the police message log, it was reported at 7:37am that "the body of one dead male and the body of one dead female found in kitchen", and so why would there be a reference to one dead male body followed by one dead female body, if the mistake which PC Collins talks about in his undiscloosed witness statement? Additionally, another entry, timed at 7:38am, states "one dead male, one dead female", so why would a asecoind message be passd from the scene confirming that two dead bodies had been found in the kitchen and that one body was first and foremost male followed by a reference to a dead female? The, during another timed message, at 7:42am, "contact the police surgeon and the coroners officer regading two dead bodies".

    It is clear there3fore, that by 7:42am, two dead bodies had been found inside the kitchen by the armed police, not just one body which was misidentified by PC Collins as a female which turned out to be a male body.

    These kind of mistakes do not happen.

    Fact of the matter is, there were two bodies found in the kitchen, one dead male and a female body which presumed dead (which could have been mistakenly identified by Collions as a female body from the vantage point of the kitchen window, but which could have turned out to be another male one once Collins entered the kitchen)..


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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike Tesko View Post
    A message was passed from the scene for a sixth body bag to be brought to the scene despite there only appearing to be five dead bodies?

    Was there a sixth body?

    Who owned the mysterious black handbag which was photoghraphed on the kitchen worktop next to a box of spilled .22 bullets and the telephone with its handset off its cradle?

    The possibility that a sixth body was found at the scene cannot easily be overlooked or dismissed, because it remains possible that for one reason or another the female body found in the kitchen (see police message log contents, timed at 7:37am and 7:38am) was the sixth body being spoken about which Essex police have covered up..

    If Sheila Caffells body had always been upstairs in the main bedroom, then Essex police are responsible for covering up for the involvement of a sixth victim (or the sole suspect) in these crimes? Did the firearms team shoot the female victim once they forced their way into the kitchen and is this the source for the reference relating to the officers action report regarding the shooting incident in the kitchen, the contents of which have deliberately been concealed?

    Why were six body bags requested at the scene if there were only five bodies?
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    UPDATE:-

    Working on the assumption that at the beginning of the police operation inside the house there were two dead bodies found in the kitchen, and by the end of the operation there were four bodies upstairs, if you add these figures together ( 2 + 4 = 6) it produces a total of six bodies and this could account for why the request was sent out from the scene for six body bags to be brought to the scene.

    PC Collins account of mistaking a male body as a female one from the vantage point of the kitchen window, does not effect the actual number of bodies found in the kitchen, since, his explanation merely substututes the same body from a female one to a male one.

    As far as I can see , the additional statement from PC Collins is introduced to try and muddy the waters so to speak and to try and cover up for the second body which was found in the kitchen but it actually does no such thing, it only serves to substitute the female version, for the male version, which is as I say the same body. On this account there would only have been one body downstairs, and four others upstairs, but as we have seen there were two bodies found downstairs, and three other bodies, found upstairs, by 8:10am. A fourth body was not present or found upstairs by 8:10am, according to the contents of the police message log. If you follow the content of the policfe message log it reads consistent with the truth being spoken about and unravelling, it reads authentically, and is a contemporaneous account of what I beileve did occur, and take place.

    I have previously explained how I believe a two body downstairs and three bodies upstairs scenario by 8:10am, turned into a one body downstairs and four other bodies upstairs scenario, by the time the police surgeon, DR Craig, arrived upon the scene, at about 8:41am, to verify death in all five cases, and this explanation is consistent with the displacement of Sheila's body from the kitchen downstairs to the main bedroom upstairs. On the basis of this explanation, it would be my case that Sheila was only presumed to be dead and that she somehow regained consciiousness and fled upstairs into the bedroom where she was shot and killed. In this explanation, Sheila could have shot herself or she could have been shot and killed by the police.

    There is, however, another possibility, which warrants consideration.

    What if Sheila's body had always been in the main bedroom upstairs and hers was not the body which PC Collins saw in the kitchen, whilst peering through the kitchen window, or it was not the female body referred to in the kitchen as described by the contents of the police mesage log entries, timed at 7:37am, 7:38am and 7:42am..

    What if there really was a sixth body found at the scene and for one reason or another its existence or presence at the scene is what Essex police have sought to cover up with the assistance of Special Branch and or other Government agencies?

    What if the body which PC Collins identified as a female body from the vantage pioint of the kitchen window, turned out to be a male body when he got into the kitchen and this maloe body was in addition to the body of Raklph bamber which as we have heard waas sat on a chair behind the internal door through which the police had to enter to get into the kitchen?

    Who could this sixth male body have been?

    Why were six body bags requested to be brought to the scene, if there were only five dead bodies?
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    Sheila died a maximum of two hours before SOC PC Bird photographed her body in the main bedroom...

    There exist a number of crime scene photographs which show bright red blood still leaking and running from the wounds upon Sheila Caffells throat as she is laid on the main bedroom carpet next to her parents bed.. On top of her body is the family owned .22 semi-automatic Anshuzt rifle and one of her hands is resting upon the gun itself whilst the other hand lies close to the end of the guns barrel.

    If Jeremy Bamber killed his sister, he would have had to have done it at around 3am, then stage managed Sheila's body to make it look like a suicide and flee the scene and go home to Goldhanger and call the police..

    He would then have to wait at home until the police instructed him to proceed to the farmhouse where he would be met by police officers and he would have to wait around until just before 9 O'clock to be told that all five members iof his family were all dead inside the farmhouse.

    It was at this stage that Jeremy would accuse the police of shooting dead all of his family. He made these accusations to a police officer at the scene who made a note of what Jeremy said at this time. Once Jeremy had made the accusation that the armed police must have shot his family, the police officer who took the complaint told him that he was acussing police officers of doing something that they would not have done, but Jeremy insisted that they must have shot his family because they had gone towards the house carrying guns..

    Bambers complaint that the police shot and killed his family has never yet been investigated despite some 23 years having elapsed since he made the complaint.

    In recent times, new material has surfaced which was not originally disclosed to Bamber, his legal team or the court which tried him back in 1986, which is capable of suppoprting the argument that Essex police may have had a direct involvement in the death of Sheila Caffell inside the main bedroom at some point after 8:10am..

    In this respect, there may have been a third party involvement in her death, but the police do not need to look any further for the person or persons who could have killed her, since, it could have been the police themselves who shot her..

    I am drawn to this conclusion because of a number of factors, one being the existence of the police message log tapes and also the fact that when the pathologist removed both bullets from Sheila's body, one was described as a whole bullet (PV/19 the fatal bullet) and the other was described as a fragmented bullet (PV/20 which had fragmented whilst striking a bone in her neck)..

    However, by the time these two bullets reachedthe ballistic expert, Malcolm Fletcher, smeone has switched at least one of the two bullets and substituted one with a whole bullet to enable the ballistic expert to conclude that both of the whole bullets in his possession had been fired from the family owned .22 semi-automatic rifle which had been found upon the victims body..

    It would be another hour or so before SOC PC Bird started to take his crime scene pictures of Sheila's body..

    By this stage, the blood should have changed colour and coagulated if Jeremy had killed her as long ago as 3am, but the blood from the wounds had not started to clot and it had not changed colour or consistency in keeping with the victim having already been dead for over 7 hours or more..

    Rigor mortis had not yet set in and the colour of Sheila's skin had not started to change colour by turning a shade of purple in keeping with her having already been dead for several hours..

    To all intents and purposes she looked like she had just died very recently..


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    What happened to the sixth body bag?

    As previously mentioned, a request was sent from the scene at around 8:45am, for six body bags to be brought to the scene. By this stage the police operation inside the hiouse had already been completed and it was known exactly how many dead bodies were found inside. So why ask for six body bags and not five?

    More importantly, what happened to the sixth body bag?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike Tesko View Post
    As previously mentioned, a request was sent from the scene at around 8:45am, for six body bags to be brought to the scene. By this stage the police operation inside the hiouse had already been completed and it was known exactly how many dead bodies were found inside. So why ask for six body bags and not five?

    More importantly, what happened to the sixth body bag?
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    perhaps and maybe linked to this puzzle is the fact that at around the same time as this request was being made for six body bags to be brought to the scene, a message was also passed from the incident for a transit van with six police officers to urgently attend the scene, and as a result of this message being dispatched, the van and six police officers were en route to the incident, only to be cancelled a short while later.

    Was there a connection between the request for six body bags to be brought to the scene and the van containing six police officers being summoned to the incident, and then its cancelation?


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    Why were Essex police originally keen to close the investigation as four murders and a suicide?

    For one whole month, Essex police refused to consider anyone else as a suspect in the deaths of the five victims at whf. Even wheh the relatives came foprward and told DCI "Taff" Jones that they thought Sheila could not have done it and that they thought Jeremy was the killer, DCI Jones refused to budge on the issue and had the relatives physically thrown out of the police station on three separate occasions.

    In addition to the relatives badgering the police, a family friend, PC Robert Carr, of the Metropolitan police, went personally to see Essex police on 14th August 1985 and outlined in great detail why he thought that Sheila could not have shot the others and then herself and why he thought Jeremy was the killer?

    Despite this visit, DCI Jones would still not change his mind..

    The reason he would not change his mind, is because he knew what had really happened once the firearms team had got into the premises and that Sheila had not died until after the police were already inside the buiilding and that ultimately the police at the scene were responsible for Sheila Caffells death..

    Sheila need not have died that morning if the police inside the house had carried out their duties in accordance with force policy..

    The reason why the relatives were not satisfied with what Essex police told them about what had happened at the scene was because what Essex police were telling them was not true.

    At first the relatives were led to believe from Essex police, that only five bullets had been fired from the rifle and that each bullet had killed each of the five victims outright. The relatives reasoned that Sheila was not that proficient with handling a gun and she would not have been able to be so lethal and be able to kill everyone, including herself by the use of one bullet.

    Later, when they found out that Ralph had been shot 8 times, June 7 times, Daniel 5 times, Nicholas 3 times, and Sheila twice, they reasoned that Sheila would not have been cpapble of reloading the rifles bullet magazine at least twice more..

    The relatrives suspicions which became focussed upon Jeremy as the main suspect were fuelled by the lies which Essex police had been telling about how everyone at the scene had been killed.

    DCI "Taff" Jones was having none of it, Sheila had killed the others and then she had killed herself in the main bedroom. He reasoned that it had been Sheila's intention to lure Jeremy to the farmhouse and to shoot him as well so that all the family were dead. This is waht DCI Jones provately told other officers about his belief that Sheila did kill the others and herself and that Jeremy Bamber had played no role in any of the deaths..


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    Jeremy was arrested twice for the murders..

    Essex police arrested Jeremy Bamber twice for the murders, once on 8th September 1985, and secondly, on 30th September 1985.

    The reason for his first arrest was because Julie Mugford had come forward, and also because of Robert Boutflours successful attempt to persuade ACC Peter Simpson to instigate a fresh investigation, as a result of his visit to see him, on 6th September 1985.

    Jeremy Bamber was never a suspect under the original investigation file, SC/688/85, headed by DCI "Taff" Jones, he only became a suspect under the second part of the investigation (SC/786/85) headed by DCS "Mick "Ainsley, which came into force after and from 6th September 1985.

    When Bamber was first arrested, he was interviewed by DCI "Taff" Jones. Jeremy told me during the many times I have spoken to him and written to him, that when DCI "Taff" Jones interviewed him, you could tell that he did not want to charge him with any offences connected with the murders, because DCI Jones couched the questions put to him in such a way that they were designed to provide him with a means to answer them.


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    Two different investigations - SC/688/85 and SC/786/85..

    In effect, there were two very different and separate investigations into what took place and what occurred at whf on 7th August 1985..

    These two different investigations, SC/688/85 and SC/786/85, were put together by two different senior Essex police officers, SC/688/85 was put together under the leadership of DCI "Taff" Jones, who was present at the scene from a very early stage on the morning of 7th August 1985, and SC/786/85, was put together under the leadership of DCS "Mick" Ainsley, who had no direct involvement in the incident at the scene.

    SC/688/85, was full of information and evidence which placed Sheila Caffell, as the main suspect for the killing of the other four suspects (Ralph, June, Daniel and Nicholas) and the taking of her own life, and the contents of the police message log which confirms that two dead bodies (one dead male and one dead female) were found downstairs in the kitchen by 7:37am, and a further three bodies were found upstairs by 8:10am.

    In this file, a fourth body was never found upstairs and the police operation inside the premises, concluded at 8:10am, with the bullding being decalred thoroughly searched, safe and secure.

    SC/786/85, contained information and evidence which placed Jeremy Bamber as the suspect who had killed everyone, including his sister,Sheila Caffell, and which presented the evidence of only one body (Ralph Bamber) being found downstairs in the kitchen, and the other four bodies upstairs in the bedrooms. According to information contained in this file, two bodies were never found downstairs in the kitchen and the police operation inside the house ended at about 8:30am..

    The real truth about what took place inside whf is sonewhere in between both versions and deals with the displacement of a body from the kitchen downstairs to the main bedroom upstairs, which Essex police are continuing to deny ever took place, or happened.

    But it did.

    The original file (SC/688/85) has officially gione missing and can no longer be found. Nobody seems to know what happened to it, except me.

    Police Inspector "Bob" Miller, was tasked to edit the contents of the statements contained in the original file (SC/688/85) and to prepare revised statements from various witnesses which would become part of the new file (SC/786/85). In a nutshell, PI Miller knows what happened to the original file (SC/688/85) because he disected it and had it in his possession in order to carry out these duties. Miller was acting on the instyruction of ACC Peter Simpson and DCS "Mick" Ainsley.

    In point of fact, both versions of where the bodies were, i.e. two bodies downstair and three bodies upstairs by 8:10am, and one body downstairs and four bodies upstairs by 8:30am, were true to some extent, depending upon the time being spoken about. For example, at 8:10am, there had been two bodies downstuars and three bodies upstiars, but at that moment in time, the female body regained consciuosness and fled upstyiars and so this changed things around at that time, or from that point onwards. The displacement of one female body form downstuars to upstairs is what Essex police have sought to cover up in this case. They have been allowed to achieve this because of the introduction of the seciond file (SC/786/85) which reconfigured all the information and evidence contained in the original file (SC/688/85) whic outlined exactly how all five bodies were found when the firearms officers actually got into the house.

    Not only was PI "Bob" Miller responsible for editing and re-presenting information and evidence into the new file (SC/786/85) from the old one (SC/688/85) but he was also tasked with presenting false and misleading information to the eputy Coroner, Mr Thompkin, at the opening of the inquest on 14th August 1985. The false information which PI Miller gave to the Deoputy Coroner, Mr Thmpkin, caused the bodies of the three adult victims to be released for disposal by way of cremation and the bodies of the two child victims to be released for burial.

    The main reason for the cover up by Essex police, was because they were responsible for the deathj of Sheila "Jean" Caffell, inside the main bedroom at white house farm at about 8:30am on the morning, 7th August 1985.

    Jeremy Bamber had complained to one police officer at the scene that he thought or believed that the armed police who had gone into the premises had shot and killed all of his family. It should not come as a suprise that Essex police failed to investigation such a serious complaint, since, the truth in this matter is that part of what Jeremy was saying was in fact true. The armed police who went into the building at just after 7:30am, that morning, were directly responsible for Sheila's death which took ;place or occurred in the main bedroom.

    The key question, as far as I am concerned, is not whether or not Jeremy or Sheila was responsible for Sheila's death in the bedroom, but whether or not it was Sheila or the police?

    I am more and more inclined to think that it was the police who shot and killed her and I believe evidence exists to support such a view.


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    Ah please Mike, come on, you are clearly an intelligent guy, first Sheila shot them now the police it seems that everyone did it apart from Bamber. Poor Bamber everybody else is wrong and he is right...the whole world was out to frame him. I hope one day Bamber will actually show some remorse, face up to slaughtering his family and say what really happened. I wont hold my breath however. Look at Scott Peterson, OJ etc. they are all innocent arent they.... Heck even Manson thinks he did no wrong. Bamber deserves to stay in jail for the rest of his life.


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    Sensational New Evidence - Ralph Bamber called the Police..

    New material has been discovered which confirms that Ralph Bamber made a last ditch phone call to Essex police at around 3.26am, on 7 August 1985.

    In the recorded message, Ralph informs the police that "his daughter, who is 27 years of age, has got his gun, and that she is going berserk".

    10 minutes later, Jeremy contacted the police and informed them that his father had contacted him by telephone, and said that "Sheila had got the gun" and that "she had gone crazy", and for Jeremy to "come quickly" to the farm.

    A police document containing the details of this message is now in the hands of Bamber, and his legal team.


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    Hello Mike

    Would you be kind enough to point me to any new news articles regarding this evidence?

    I have given it more than a few days for this to break over here (UK), yet still nothing.

    We all know what the UK papers are like, surely they would be crawling all over it.

    Just wondering why they would be holding back.

    Any thoughts?

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    Quote Originally Posted by lynda_a_c View Post
    Hello Mike

    Would you be kind enough to point me to any new news articles regarding this evidence?

    I have given it more than a few days for this to break over here (UK), yet still nothing.

    We all know what the UK papers are like, surely they would be crawling all over it.

    Just wondering why they would be holding back.

    Any thoughts?

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    Linda,

    a copy of the document to which I am referring to, has recently been submitted to the CCRC, by Bamber, and his legal team, for their consideration as part of his application to have his case referred back to the court of appeal for judgement. The document in question does exist, because I have a copy of it, and I was hoping to be able to provide access to it to the general reader / viewer, however, Jeremy has asked me to hold back until the CCRC makes a decision about it. I should say that this latest material forms part of a far bigger application which the CCRC are currently considering. The gist of Bambers application focuses upon the suggestion that the police disturbed the scene, and stage managed it, prior to and during the taking of crime scene photographs. You can view some of the images and arguments which Bamber is relying upon, as part of his application to the CCRC, at Sleuthing for justice.com.

    As far as the last ditch phone call from the scene by Ralph Bamber, is concerned, it would appear that he did make such a call to the police, because during the trial (1986) it came to light that a patrol car and its three occupants, had been despatched to the scene, before Jeremy contacted the police with his phone call to them. The trial judge commented upon this anomoly and suggested that some mistake had simply been made involving the timing of Jeremy's call to the police - he suggested that it must have happened much earlier than it was recorded as having taken place. Fact of the matter is, that with the discovery of this new material, it now seems almost certain, that the reason why the police were dispatched to the scene before Bamber contacted the police, was in response to Ralph Bambers call to them, minutes before. The fact of the matter, is that When Jeremy called the police, he was merely confirming that which his father (Ralph) had already been in the process of telling them.

    Ralph contacted the police, and told them "his daughter, had got his gun", and that "she was aged 27 years", and "going berserk", whereas, Jeremy later contacted the police (unaware that his father had been speaking to them) and he told the police, that he had been contacted by his father, who had told him "Sheila's got the gun, she's gone crazy, come quickly".

    Bambers message, also included the fact that his sister was aged 26 years.

    When I last saw Jeremy a couple of weeks ago, he was naturally very excited about the discovery of this new evidence.

    Hope this explains everything to your satisfaction.

    Best wishes

    Mike.
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    Two parts to the investigation

    There were two parts to the investigation into the five deaths at white house farm, part one focussed upon the murder suicide theory, where the police believed that Sheila had shot and killed the others, and that she had then taken her own life, and evidence was gathered under a crime reference of SC/688/85. Part two of the investigation focussed upon murder by Jeremy Bamber, and evidence was gathered, under a crime reference of SC/786/85.

    The silencer figured in both investigations:-

    In part one (SC/688/85) the relatives introduced the silencer which was provisionally examined at the lab on 13 August 1985, under an exhibit reference of DB/1, but the officer leading the investigation, DCI "Taff" Jones, rejected it, and it was eventually handed back to the relatives. These same relatives had attended Witham police station on no less than three separate occasions, to voice their concerns, that the silencer had been used, and that Jeremy was the killer, only to be thrown out of the police station on those three occasions, and to being told by DCI Jones, not to come trying to tell the police, how to do police business. This caused one of the relatives (R. Boutflour) to make an appointment, to see ACC Peter Simpson, and on 6 September 1985, he persuaded ACC Simpson to instigate a fresh investigation, headed by a new senior officer.

    At this time, a new crime reference (SC/786/85) came into force, and new information was placed into it, with a view to prosecuting Jeremy Bamber, for the murders. A great deal of the original material contained in the original file (SC/688/85) was not carried over into the new file, and the silencer was reintroduced by the relatives, back to the police - Ann Eaton handed the silencer back, to DC Oakey, on 11 September 1985, which was retained by Essex police, until 26 September 1985, at which stage it was resubmitted back to the lab' under the exhibit reference of DRB/1.

    According to the evidence, the silencer had never left police possession at all, since it was first handed to the police, by Peter Eaton, on 12 August 1985, and it had been submitted to the Lab' on 30 August 1985, to enable the ballistic expert, Malcolm Flecther, to allegedly dismantle it, and for him to discover the crucial flake of blood, and that the blood expert (John Hayward) later identified, as belonging exclusively, to Sheila Caffell - infact, the silencer did not go to the lab' until after the flake was identifed as blood, belonging to Sheila Caffell. For example, all the blood group activity ( A, EAP BA, AK1 and HP 2-1) was completed, by 19 September 1985, and yet the silencer in question, inside whiuch it was supposedly found, did not get sent to the lab' by Essex police, until 26 September 1985 (how then could the flake have been found inside the silencer at the lab, if it was not there)?

    This mystery surounding the silencer has only recently been untangled, but it is now possible to reconstruct precisely, what the police, and the relatives, dfid with the silencer, and how the court which tried and convicted Bamber, for these murders, was taken in by the lies surounding it, and the purported discovery of the crucial flake inside it.
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    Hi Myke

    I see Jeremy lost his appeal against his whole life tariff. I saw no mention of evidence that the police lied and an appeal for being wrongly convicted.

    I take it innocence didn't play any part in this latest appeal.

    Surely, with the evidence you have he should be a free man?

    Yours cordially

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike Tesko View Post
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    Bluefox:-

    Jeremy made a witness statement to Essex police covering these points and I will try to lay my hands upon the actual statement over the next few days or so and post the contents word for word, which I feel is the best way to deal with your query..

    However, I can say that Jeremy turned up for work at whf on the morning of 6th August 1985, and went to the fields to bring back trailers filled with crops that were deposited in the barn. Later in the day he was on the tractor cutting Rape crop and was visited by Sheila and one of the twin boys mid afternoon. He returned to the farmhouse around supper time and walked in on some sort of heated debate about Sheila's inability to look after the children. Jeremy states that his parents were saying to Sheila that she ought to get some help from the social services to give her some support with looking after the children? At one stage Bamber collected the family owned rifle and went outside to shoot at rabbits he had just seen which were hanging around the barn when he brought the last tractor load back to the farm from the fields. Bamber says he did not shoot any bullets because when he got back outside the rabbits had disappeared and so he returned the rifle back to the farmhouse. He admitted to the police that he inadvertently left the rifle fully loaded with .22 bullets. He left the farmhouse at about 9:30pm and went home to his cottage at 9 Head Street, Goldhanger, Essex, and watched a bit of TV before falling asleep. He was awoken in the middle of the night at around 3 O'clock by the phone ringing and he says when he picked up the receiver his fathers voice said "Sheila's got the gun, she's gone crazy, come quickly" then the line had gone dead as if it had been deliberately been cut off. He tried to re-establish contact with the farm but he kept getting the engaged tone and so he eventually called the police and alerted them the what his father had said..

    This is a general explanation of what Bamber told the police in his statement..

    I hope this will be sufficient until I can lay my hands on the relevant statement?
    Mike, there are problems with this. Bamber openly stated to the police present when questioned about the fact that Ralph did not dial 999 because
    'My father is not the sort of person to get organisations involved' Does this not totally contradict he assertion that; and I quote..... 'Jeremy states that his parents were saying to Sheila that she ought to get some help from the social services to give her some support with looking after the children' Unquote...........
    This is nothing more than another example of Bamber's duplicity and lies. He cannot have it both ways. Either his father did want to get 'organisations involved' or he didnt. It suited him to say that his father did want to get 'organisations involved' and it also suited his purpose to say that they wanted to get Social Services involved. This, I would strongly argue, is just a small example of Bamber's web of deceipt, spun to cast the finger of suspicion squarely at Sheila.
    I find it highly unlikely that Nevil Bamber - a Magistrate - would phone Jeremy at his house instead of doing the right thing and phone 999 for urgent assistance. Especially when you consider that there was a derranged woman with a loaded gun that was roaming the house, with his wife present and two small children sleeping in their beds.
    No Mike this is not what happened. It is not far more likely that the whole 'organisations involved' story was just that....a story invented by Bamber to lay the blame on the very dead and silent, Sheila.


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    Mike............ rabbits? Since they are creatures that only come out of their burrows during twilight or dusk due to predators such as foxes or hawks, what was Bamber doing claiming he had seen them during daylight hours? Furthermore, Rabbits are rarely seen in August. Hares are easily distinguishable from rabbits. Besides hares are only seen in March or April. If Bamber would have said rats, then it is understandable, but to a farm boy like Bamber I am sure he knows the difference.
    Mike he has clearly messed up on this one. It simply is not true. It was his way of trying to 'explain' why he left a fully loaded .22 rifle near the kitchen, and in easy reach when he climbed through the bathroom window instead of having to walk through the house to the gun cupboard. It is not more likely that he left it there so that it would prove very handy for what he was about to do later that night?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike Tesko View Post
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    Linda,

    a copy of the document to which I am referring to, has recently been submitted to the CCRC, by Bamber, and his legal team, for their consideration as part of his application to have his case referred back to the court of appeal for judgement. The document in question does exist, because I have a copy of it, and I was hoping to be able to provide access to it to the general reader / viewer, however, Jeremy has asked me to hold back until the CCRC makes a decision about it. I should say that this latest material forms part of a far bigger application which the CCRC are currently considering. The gist of Bambers application focuses upon the suggestion that the police disturbed the scene, and stage managed it, prior to and during the taking of crime scene photographs. You can view some of the images and arguments which Bamber is relying upon, as part of his application to the CCRC, at Sleuthing for justice.com.

    As far as the last ditch phone call from the scene by Ralph Bamber, is concerned, it would appear that he did make such a call to the police, because during the trial (1986) it came to light that a patrol car and its three occupants, had been despatched to the scene, before Jeremy contacted the police with his phone call to them. The trial judge commented upon this anomoly and suggested that some mistake had simply been made involving the timing of Jeremy's call to the police - he suggested that it must have happened much earlier than it was recorded as having taken place. Fact of the matter is, that with the discovery of this new material, it now seems almost certain, that the reason why the police were dispatched to the scene before Bamber contacted the police, was in response to Ralph Bambers call to them, minutes before. The fact of the matter, is that When Jeremy called the police, he was merely confirming that which his father (Ralph) had already been in the process of telling them.

    Ralph contacted the police, and told them "his daughter, had got his gun", and that "she was aged 27 years", and "going berserk", whereas, Jeremy later contacted the police (unaware that his father had been speaking to them) and he told the police, that he had been contacted by his father, who had told him "Sheila's got the gun, she's gone crazy, come quickly".

    Bambers message, also included the fact that his sister was aged 26 years.

    When I last saw Jeremy a couple of weeks ago, he was naturally very excited about the discovery of this new evidence.

    Hope this explains everything to your satisfaction.

    Best wishes

    Mike.
    Mike, I would really like to see your evidence for what you are saying. Are you seriously suggesting that Ralph phoned the police? If so where is the evidence for this? Where are the statements from the officers that heard it?
    If you are basing it upon the point that three officers were despatched earlier than originally thought, then you have no point at all. It alters nothing.
    If there were two phone calls - one from a magistrate - the police would have almost certainly reacted a whole lot quicker than what they actually did.


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    Quote Originally Posted by lynda_a_c View Post
    Hi Myke

    I see Jeremy lost his appeal against his whole life tariff. I saw no mention of evidence that the police lied and an appeal for being wrongly convicted.

    I take it innocence didn't play any part in this latest appeal.

    Surely, with the evidence you have he should be a free man?

    Yours cordially

    Lynda
    Lynda, If I may add my point of view here. There was no mention of evidence the police lied because there simply wasnt any. I find it incredulous that if there were they wouldnt have brought it up at the hearing.
    There is no evidence that has come to light that I have seen that Bamber is in any means, shape or form......innocent. What you have to bare in mind is that Bamber's supporters have given you one side of the story..........their side, their take on the evidence. The judge at his Appeal Hearing stated that the evidence presented before him was 'nothing more than constraints of the truth'
    I am also aghast at the sheer inventiveness of these Bamber supporters. I have heard many, many different versions and imaginative theories in the past that have somehow made their way into the realms of fact, when they are nothing more than wishful or imaginative thinking.
    I urge you to look carefully at all the evidence and decide for yourself whether Bamber is guilty or innocent. To find him innocent you must also believe that:
    Julie Mugford is a compulsive lair (Purgery is a crime that carries a maximum sentence of 10 years in prison) You may also ask yourself, if this be true, why Mugford openly volunteered to return to the UK from Canada (where she now lives with her family) to freely provide testimony at his Appeal hearings and risk such a sentence?
    The answer you may find is simple. She was certainly telling the truth.

    On a further note did you also know that Jeremy Bamber, much to their embarrassment, was diagnosed as a 'psychopath' by a psychiatrist brought in by his own defense council to disprove that he wasnt?
    He stated 'If ever there was a psychopath, then Jeremy Bamber is it'
    I have heard many Bamber supporters dismiss these findings by stating that Bamber's 'prison psychiatrists didnt think so'
    I would argue that Bamber has had more than enough time to perfect his technique. To understand this case one must delve into the realms of psychology and psychopathy.
    Psychopaths by their very nature are extremely manipulative, cunning without guilt nor remorse. They are superficially glib, arrogant, adept at lying and have absolutely no conscience. More importantly in this case, psychopaths feel a sense of entitlement to what is not rightfully theirs. Also they are completely unable to take responsibility for their own actions. In other words, Bamber felt that his mother and fathers estate was his by right. He murdered them all because of his hatred for them and he felt 'entitled' to it. His own arrogance led him to believe that he could get away with it. It was an appalling and cowardly set of murders that he hoped would never be discovered. Such is the mode of thought of a psychopath.
    But, I leave it to you to make up your own mind.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike Tesko View Post
    Essex police arrested Jeremy Bamber twice for the murders, once on 8th September 1985, and secondly, on 30th September 1985.

    The reason for his first arrest was because Julie Mugford had come forward, and also because of Robert Boutflours successful attempt to persuade ACC Peter Simpson to instigate a fresh investigation, as a result of his visit to see him, on 6th September 1985.

    Jeremy Bamber was never a suspect under the original investigation file, SC/688/85, headed by DCI "Taff" Jones, he only became a suspect under the second part of the investigation (SC/786/85) headed by DCS "Mick "Ainsley, which came into force after and from 6th September 1985.

    When Bamber was first arrested, he was interviewed by DCI "Taff" Jones. Jeremy told me during the many times I have spoken to him and written to him, that when DCI "Taff" Jones interviewed him, you could tell that he did not want to charge him with any offences connected with the murders, because DCI Jones couched the questions put to him in such a way that they were designed to provide him with a means to answer them.
    Mike, Could it not be that DCI 'Taff' Jones was well known to be an arrogant and uncompromising man. I put it to you that Jones did not want to blame Bamber because it would have made a mockery of his original findings, and as such would have completely discredited him as a Detective Chief Inspector.
    Something he would have found totally unbearable.
    Moreover, if your theory is correct, then would it not be prudent that others that were in on the secret (there were a number of police officers present) would have equally objected to blaming Bamber for the murders? However, it seems they did not. Ironically, Jones was later quite rightly, discredited and exposed. The very thing he feared the most.


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    Quote Originally Posted by jeffers68 View Post
    Ah please Mike, come on, you are clearly an intelligent guy, first Sheila shot them now the police it seems that everyone did it apart from Bamber. Poor Bamber everybody else is wrong and he is right...the whole world was out to frame him. I hope one day Bamber will actually show some remorse, face up to slaughtering his family and say what really happened. I wont hold my breath however. Look at Scott Peterson, OJ etc. they are all innocent arent they.... Heck even Manson thinks he did no wrong. Bamber deserves to stay in jail for the rest of his life.
    I totally agree with you Jeffers. The gist of virtually all the traffic is blaming everyone but the real culprit himself.........Jeremy Bamber. It is astonishing that a psychopath can manpulate so many people from behind prison walls. Evil knows no bounds.


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    How Bamber murdered his family

    Quote Originally Posted by Mike Tesko View Post
    Considering that five persons were brutally gunned down inside their own home and that the main bedroom and the kitchen were heavily bloodstained, one is left to wonder how a killer could have left the scene without leaving a clue that someone else was responsible for killing everyone, other than Sheila, or the police..

    It cannot even be argued that the killer washed himself down before leaving the scene because Scenes of crime checked the bathroom and could not find any trace of blood in the plug holes of the bath or the sinks upstairs or downstairs..

    No living person could have got out of that place without leaving some form of trace evidence that he or she had been there..

    Heavy bloodstains inside the house, and an absence of any blood at all outside, tells its own story..

    Jeremy Bamber did not kill anyone at white house farm that night..
    This is pure nonsense Mike, we have been down this road before. It may possibly be that Bamber washed himself down in the bathroom at his own home after he committed the act. I believe that Bamber forced the catch on the bathroom window with a hacksaw blade to gain entry into the house. He retrived the fully loaded .22 rifle he had so conveniently left on the settle the evening before, crept up the stairs and burst into the main bedroom containing both Ralf and June. He shot June from the bedroom door (this explains why some of the bullets missed or grazed her) He then shot and deliberately wounded Ralph. This made him unable to mount any serious challenge to Bamber's plan. Whereupon Bamber frogmarched Ralph down the stairs, witnessed by the circular marks later found on the back of Ralph's neck. Ralph was frogmarched downstairs to later provide Bamber with an plausable alibi about Ralph's phonecall to Jeremy. Ralph obviously knew he was about to die and mounted a spirited, yet futile fight for his life. He made a grab for the rifle with his one good hand. Enraged, Bamber proceeded to turn the rifle around and batter him with the butt-end, swinging it like a club. Until finally the fight went out of Ralph. Bamber brutally fired fatal shots to Ralph's head killing him instantly. Leaving him where he lay Bamber proceeeded to travel upstairs, where astonishingly June had desparately managed to crawl to the bedroom door. Bamber stood over June and fired a lethal shot to her forehead killing her instantly.
    Bamber then went to a heavy sedated Sheila's bedroom and coaxed her out of bed. In her drug-induced stupor he coaxed her to lie down on the floor (he could have told her anything at this point) he put the rifle under her chin and pulled the trigger. Believing her to be dead, he then proceeeded to the twins bedroom where he cold-bloodedly shot both children while they slept. Surveying his work Bamber realised that Sheila was not yet dead. Maybe he detected movement or shallow breathing. He again stuck the rifle under her chin and pulled the trigger a second time, killing her instantly. He then proceeeded to arrange the scene to make it look like a suicide. Unfortuntely for him, as he placed the rifle on Sheila's chest he found that with the silencer fitted it was too long for her fingers to reach the trigger and for it to be placed under her chin simultaneously. He therefore, unscrewed the silencer, cleaned it with cotton wool, and placed it back into the gun cupboard. He may then of washed himself down carefully in the bathroom, painstakingly and with detail washing any blood away (this would have been picked up if the police at the time had, had access to the blood-exposing chemical, Luminol) He then went downstairs climbed onto the kitchen sink (the housekeeper later discovered that the kitchen sink utensils had been moved from there original position) opened the fan-light and larger lower window. He climbed out, and closed the window by means of the fan-light, which he then closed giving it a sharp tap to allow the catch to fall back into place (something he admitted to have done many times) He then rode home on June's bicycle via the dark back tracks that criss-cross this area, along the sea wall and back to his cottage. Whereupon he phoned Julie Mugford with his 'there is something wrong at the farm, I havent had any sleep all night' call. He then waited and phoned the police with his 'My father just phoned me, my sisters gone crazy and has got the gun' call.
    This is what the evidence tells us. This is probably how Jeremy Bamber murdered his entire family for money coupled with his desire to be free of any form of moral constraint by them. Committing what he thought in his infinate arrogance as the 'perfect murder'.
    There is no police conspiracy or third party involvement. This is an act of desperation by people that really should know better. This was in essence, an appalling and horrifying set of murders committed by a greedy, scheming and evil psychopath. Pure and simple.
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    Furthermore, he was asked by the police to meet him at White House Farm. He drove there so slowly that the police car sent to meet him at the farm actually overtook him!.
    One must remember that Bamber had only to drive approximately 4 miles, the police by contrast had to travel from Witham Police Station, some 12 miles away. One must question the motive here. Why would someone, whose family is apparently in mortal danger, drive so incredibly slowly to the scene? The answer is simple, and one spotted by the prosecution at his trial - to make it plainly obvious to those already there that he was not present at the farm.
    Bamber already knew the fate of those inside the farmhouse before he even arrived. It was not Sheila who was responsible, or anyone else that Bamber supporters seem to enjoy throwing into the equation to muddy the waters, but a result of Bamber's own handywork.


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    Quote Originally Posted by debbyuk2008 View Post
    http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2002/oc...rime.sarahhall

    I have always been suspicious of Julie Mugford. I have always been on the fence on this case. However, I question Julie Mugford's motives.
    Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned!

    I prefer to hear from witnesses without a shady past. (cheque fraud) Also she did apparently try to sell her newspaper to the News of the World

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/ar...-innocent.html

    Also, Julie only told the police about Jeremy's intentions after she was ditched?

    Then I question why Neville Bamber (I got the name right this time!!!) did not call the police. If someone is going mad with a gun, instincts tells me you call the police...although you are likely to be dead by the time they arrive.
    Debby,
    Did you also know that Bamber was offered a substantial amount of money for his story as well, should be be found not guilty? And talking of shady pasts............Look into why Bamber had to leave New Zealand - where he was holidaying - in a hurry.
    Julie Mugford openly stated that Bamber had some kind of 'hold' over her. When he was no-longer there the bonds that tied her to this maniac, loosened. After having a stern talking to by her friend Liz Remington, who, after being told by Mugford about her suspicions about Bamber's true role in the murders, strongly advised her to 'go straight to the police' she finally did.


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    Photographs prove police moved gun on body...

    recently disclosed crime scene photographs which were taken by PC David Bird (SOC) show the barrel of the gun in two different positions against Sheila' Caffells neck / throat...

    Essex police have always denied moving her body or the gun which was found upon it, until after PC Bird had completed his photographic duties in the main bedroom.


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    Quote Originally Posted by ian45 View Post
    Mike, I would really like to see your evidence for what you are saying. Are you seriously suggesting that Ralph phoned the police? If so where is the evidence for this? Where are the statements from the officers that heard it?
    If you are basing it upon the point that three officers were despatched earlier than originally thought, then you have no point at all. It alters nothing.
    If there were two phone calls - one from a magistrate - the police would have almost certainly reacted a whole lot quicker than what they actually did.
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    Two different police records exist, one timed at 3:26am, and a second one timed at 3:36am, the first message has the reocerded details that a message from Ralph Bamber, White house farm, Tolleshunt D'Arcy, Essex, was received from Mr Bamber saying "My daughter has got ione of my guns" and as a result of receiving this call, a police patrol car, CA07 was dispatched to the scene at precisely 3:35am, some two minutes before Jeremy made his own call to the police, timed at 3:37am, at which stage Jeremy informed the police that his father had contacted him and told him that his sister had got the gun and that shew was going crazy, and to come quickly to the scene. The police dispatched another patrol car, CA05 to the scene in response to Jeremy's call, and Jeremy was advised to go to the farm and not to approach the house until he was met there by the police.

    En route to the farmhouse, Jeremy was overtaken by CA07, the police patrol car which contained PS Bews, PS Saxby and PC Myall, which had been dispatched to the scene in response to Ralph Bambers call for help timed at 3:26am..

    At Bambers trial, it was suggested that the patrol car which had been dispatched to attend the scene in response to his own call to the police (3:37am) had overtaken him en route to the scene, but it can now be proven by a reference to the newly discovered records, that Ralph contacted the police and that jeremy was overtaken by the police responding to his call made at 3:26am...

    The fact of the matter is, that now it can be proven that Ralph contacted the police at 3:26 (10 minutes before jeremy did) that Jeremy's innocence can no longer be in any doubt...


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    Quote Originally Posted by ian45 View Post
    Mike, I would really like to see your evidence for what you are saying. Are you seriously suggesting that Ralph phoned the police? If so where is the evidence for this? Where are the statements from the officers that heard it?
    If you are basing it upon the point that three officers were despatched earlier than originally thought, then you have no point at all. It alters nothing.
    If there were two phone calls - one from a magistrate - the police would have almost certainly reacted a whole lot quicker than what they actually did.
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    Two different police records exist, one timed at 3:26am, and a second one timed at 3:36am, the first message has the recorded details that a message from Ralph Bamber, White house farm, Tolleshunt D'Arcy, Essex, was received from Mr Bamber saying "My daughter has got one of my guns" and as a result of receiving this call, a police patrol car, CA07 was dispatched to the scene at precisely 3:35am, some two minutes before Jeremy made his own call to the police, timed at 3:37am, at which stage Jeremy informed the police that his father had contacted him and told him that his sister had got the gun and that she was going crazy, and to come quickly to the scene. The police dispatched another patrol car, CA05 to the scene in response to Jeremy's call, and Jeremy was advised to go to the farm and not to approach the house until he was met there by the police.

    En route to the farmhouse, Jeremy was overtaken by CA07, the police patrol car which contained PS Bews, PS Saxby and PC Myall, which had been dispatched to the scene in response to Ralph Bambers call for help timed at 3:26am..

    At Bambers trial, it was suggested that the patrol car which had been dispatched to attend the scene in response to his own call to the police (3:37am) had overtaken him en route to the scene, but it can now be proven by a reference to the newly discovered records, that Ralph contacted the police and that jeremy was overtaken by the police responding to his call made at 3:26am...

    The fact of the matter is, that now it can be proven that Ralph contacted the police at 3:26 (10 minutes before jeremy did) that Jeremy's innocence can no longer be in any doubt...


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    Why did it take CA05 so long to get to the scene?

    Why did it take the police patrol car CA05 and its occupants, which was dispatched to the scene at 3:37am, so long (4:22am) to get to the scene?

    Jeremy was criticized so heavily for having been overtaken en route to the scene by the police, CA07, as though he had been dragging his feet and that he wanted the police to arrive at the scene before he did, but now that we know that the police car (CA07) which overtook him en route to the farmhouse had been dispatched to the scene in response to an earlier call that Ralph Bamber had made to the police timed at 3:26am, it casts the whole situation in a completely different light...

    Fact of the matter is...

    Jeremy made good time to arrive at the scene (3:52am) considering that the patrol car which was dispatched to the scene in response to his own call (3:37am, did not arrive at the farmhouse until 4:22am...


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    Quote Originally Posted by ian45 View Post
    Furthermore, he was asked by the police to meet him at White House Farm. He drove there so slowly that the police car sent to meet him at the farm actually overtook him!.
    One must remember that Bamber had only to drive approximately 4 miles, the police by contrast had to travel from Witham Police Station, some 12 miles away. One must question the motive here. Why would someone, whose family is apparently in mortal danger, drive so incredibly slowly to the scene? The answer is simple, and one spotted by the prosecution at his trial - to make it plainly obvious to those already there that he was not present at the farm.
    Bamber already knew the fate of those inside the farmhouse before he even arrived. It was not Sheila who was responsible, or anyone else that Bamber supporters seem to enjoy throwing into the equation to muddy the waters, but a result of Bamber's own handywork.
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    Ian45:- with respect, your comments only mirror what the prosecution alleged at the time of Jeremy Bambers trial, but your views and those relied upon by the prosecution on that occasion, are wholly wrong and inaccurate, since, Jeremy was not overtaken by the police who had been sent to the scene (CA05) to meet him as a result of his call to the police, he was in fact overtaken by a police car which had been dispatched to the scene (CA07) acting in response to Ralph's call to the police, some 10 minutes before Jeremy made his call at 3:36 / 3:37am, that same morning...

    CA05 was dispatched to the scene at the time of Jeremy's call which he made at 3:36 / 3:37am, and if they had to travel 12 miles, it took them until 4:22am, whereas, as you rightly point out, Jeremy was living about 4 miles away, at Bourtree cottage, and he traveled there in good time, arriving there at 3:52, precisely, or in other words, he arrived at the scene some 30 minutes or so before CA05 which had been sent to the scene in response to his call to the police station, and so your criticism about how slow Jeremy drove to the scene is unjustified, since, he actually got there quicker than the police who were sent there as a result of his call...

    The fact that the police patrol car (CA07) overtook Jeremy en rouite to the scene and it arrived there two minutes before him, has no significance at all, now that it is known that it was responding to Ralph's earlier call to the police timed at 3:26am...

    Jeremy was not to know that his father had made a call to the police at this time, and that the police would be rushing to the scene as a result of that call...

    These are the known facts which were not available to Jeremy or his legal team at the time of his trial, and the mere fact that it can now be shown that Ralph called the police, exonerates jeremy as the murderer completely...


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    Quote Originally Posted by ian45 View Post
    Mike, there are problems with this. Bamber openly stated to the police present when questioned about the fact that Ralph did not dial 999 because
    'My father is not the sort of person to get organisations involved' Does this not totally contradict he assertion that; and I quote..... 'Jeremy states that his parents were saying to Sheila that she ought to get some help from the social services to give her some support with looking after the children' Unquote...........
    This is nothing more than another example of Bamber's duplicity and lies. He cannot have it both ways. Either his father did want to get 'organisations involved' or he didnt. It suited him to say that his father did want to get 'organisations involved' and it also suited his purpose to say that they wanted to get Social Services involved. This, I would strongly argue, is just a small example of Bamber's web of deceipt, spun to cast the finger of suspicion squarely at Sheila.
    I find it highly unlikely that Nevil Bamber - a Magistrate - would phone Jeremy at his house instead of doing the right thing and phone 999 for urgent assistance. Especially when you consider that there was a derranged woman with a loaded gun that was roaming the house, with his wife present and two small children sleeping in their beds.
    No Mike this is not what happened. It is not far more likely that the whole 'organisations involved' story was just that....a story invented by Bamber to lay the blame on the very dead and silent, Sheila.
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    Ian45:- Some of the things which jeremy has said from time to time, have been and are being selectively referred to, to try and undermine certain aspects and points in the case. It is true that Jeremy said that his father was not the sort of person who liked to involve the authorities in family matters, although from another perspective, it might be argued differently, since his duties as a local magistrate were cut short and he had to take compassionate leave because of threats which were made against his life and the lives of family members, by the father of a young man, who Ralph sent to prison for two years. As a result of these threats, Ralph took compassionate leave and concentrated upon being a farmer full time. Essex police fitted a panic / attack alarm at whf just in case Ralph and his family were attacked...

    This alarm was in situ at the time of the shootings...

    In this respect, it can be shown that in a life and death situation, Ralph wanted the authorities involved, since he agreed to have the alarm fitted at whf...

    As for your suggestion that the social services were not involved, well I beg to differ, because documentary evidence exists which was obtained by Essex police, which confirms that a social worker was attached to Sheila to help her look after the welfare of her two children, and so, despite what you may think, there was a link between social services and Sheila and the welfare of the twin boys...

    we now know that Ralph did call the police, and that the police responded to his call (3:26am) even before jeremy made his own call (3:37am) to the police, and so you can no longer argue that Ralph would not have phoned Jeremy before he phoned the police, because he did not, or at least it would seem that he did not, based upon the latest new information which has been obtained from Essex police files...

    Ralph called the police, by use of a land line from whf, since the telephone number which Ralph had made the call from was recorded on the police documentation...

    Jeremy made his call to the police ,from 9 head Street, Goldhanger, and since both calls were made 10 minutes a part, how had Jeremy managed to be present at whf at 3:26am, when the call made by Ralph was made to the police, and then be at home at Bourtree cottage by 3:36 / 3: 37am, in order to make his own call to the police, if jeremy did not use his own car to travel from whf to his home address, in that period of time?

    It would have been impossible for Jeremy to have been at whf at 3:26am, and then be at Bourtree cottage, 10 minutes later (3:36am) if he cycled from the scene on his mothers bicycle as alleged. With respect, it would have been impossible for Jeremy to have been in both places for him to have been the murderer...

    Jeremy could not have cycled the route along the sea wall and be back at Bourtree cottage in time for him to make his call to the police at 3:36am, if he was the killer, its as simple as that..


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    Quote Originally Posted by ian45 View Post
    Debby,
    Did you also know that Bamber was offered a substantial amount of money for his story as well, should be be found not guilty? And talking of shady pasts............Look into why Bamber had to leave New Zealand - where he was holidaying - in a hurry.
    Julie Mugford openly stated that Bamber had some kind of 'hold' over her. When he was no-longer there the bonds that tied her to this maniac, loosened. After having a stern talking to by her friend Liz Remington, who, after being told by Mugford about her suspicions about Bamber's true role in the murders, strongly advised her to 'go straight to the police' she finally did.
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    Ian45:- with respect, when Mugford went to the police as suggested by you, she went along with her best friend who effectively did all of the talking to the police. A police record exists which states "Why was Mugfords first confession statement made in the third person"?

    I should think the answer to this is obvious, someone else put the words into her mouth...

    It was for this reason that the police interviewed and took 31 different witness statements from her to iron out the many problems associated with her original evidence...

    Ask yourself this question, how many witnesses end up making 31 different witness statements to the police before being allowed or encouraged to testify during a high profile case such as this one?

    If what Mugford eventually had to say was true by the time she testified, one has to question why she was never charged as an accomplice, in the same way that Myra Hindley, and Rose West, and Maxine Carr, were charged for the roles they played in the crimes of their partners?

    Mugford's testimony was not accurate or true, she could have got her information from the relatives, and the newspapers, and from police officers, its as simple as that, nothing she had to say was unique to the crimes which only the killer could have known about...

    Mugford was coached intensively to give the evidence she gave at the time of the trial, it was a well rehearsed act, that worked for the prosecution and the police. As far as I am concerned it was not reliable evidence. The phrase, "Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned" seems to fit the circumstances of Mugford at the time she fell out with, and eventually testified against Jeremy at his trial...


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    Quote Originally Posted by ian45 View Post
    This is pure nonsense Mike, we have been down this road before. It may possibly be that Bamber washed himself down in the bathroom at his own home after he committed the act. I believe that Bamber forced the catch on the bathroom window with a hacksaw blade to gain entry into the house. He retrived the fully loaded .22 rifle he had so conveniently left on the settle the evening before, crept up the stairs and burst into the main bedroom containing both Ralf and June. He shot June from the bedroom door (this explains why some of the bullets missed or grazed her) He then shot and deliberately wounded Ralph. This made him unable to mount any serious challenge to Bamber's plan. Whereupon Bamber frogmarched Ralph down the stairs, witnessed by the circular marks later found on the back of Ralph's neck. Ralph was frogmarched downstairs to later provide Bamber with an plausable alibi about Ralph's phonecall to Jeremy. Ralph obviously knew he was about to die and mounted a spirited, yet futile fight for his life. He made a grab for the rifle with his one good hand. Enraged, Bamber proceeded to turn the rifle around and batter him with the butt-end, swinging it like a club. Until finally the fight went out of Ralph. Bamber brutally fired fatal shots to Ralph's head killing him instantly. Leaving him where he lay Bamber proceeeded to travel upstairs, where astonishingly June had desparately managed to crawl to the bedroom door. Bamber stood over June and fired a lethal shot to her forehead killing her instantly.
    Bamber then went to a heavy sedated Sheila's bedroom and coaxed her out of bed. In her drug-induced stupor he coaxed her to lie down on the floor (he could have told her anything at this point) he put the rifle under her chin and pulled the trigger. Believing her to be dead, he then proceeeded to the twins bedroom where he cold-bloodedly shot both children while they slept. Surveying his work Bamber realised that Sheila was not yet dead. Maybe he detected movement or shallow breathing. He again stuck the rifle under her chin and pulled the trigger a second time, killing her instantly. He then proceeeded to arrange the scene to make it look like a suicide. Unfortuntely for him, as he placed the rifle on Sheila's chest he found that with the silencer fitted it was too long for her fingers to reach the trigger and for it to be placed under her chin simultaneously. He therefore, unscrewed the silencer, cleaned it with cotton wool, and placed it back into the gun cupboard. He may then of washed himself down carefully in the bathroom, painstakingly and with detail washing any blood away (this would have been picked up if the police at the time had, had access to the blood-exposing chemical, Luminol) He then went downstairs climbed onto the kitchen sink (the housekeeper later discovered that the kitchen sink utensils had been moved from there original position) opened the fan-light and larger lower window. He climbed out, and closed the window by means of the fan-light, which he then closed giving it a sharp tap to allow the catch to fall back into place (something he admitted to have done many times) He then rode home on June's bicycle via the dark back tracks that criss-cross this area, along the sea wall and back to his cottage. Whereupon he phoned Julie Mugford with his 'there is something wrong at the farm, I havent had any sleep all night' call. He then waited and phoned the police with his 'My father just phoned me, my sisters gone crazy and has got the gun' call.
    This is what the evidence tells us. This is probably how Jeremy Bamber murdered his entire family for money coupled with his desire to be free of any form of moral constraint by them. Committing what he thought in his infinate arrogance as the 'perfect murder'.
    There is no police conspiracy or third party involvement. This is an act of desperation by people that really should know better. This was in essence, an appalling and horrifying set of murders committed by a greedy, scheming and evil psychopath. Pure and simple.
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    Ian45:- with respect, and as you know, there exists a series of police message and communication logs, which confirm that at 7:37am two bodies were found downstairs in the kitchen, upon entry into the premises, by the police. This original message (7:37am) was followed a minute later (7:38am, by a further mention of the fact that the body one one dead male and the body of one dead female was found downstairs. This in turn was followed by another message timed at 7:42am, for the police surgeon and the coroners officer, to be contacted about two dead bodies. By anybodies standards, I should think it must be absolutely clear that by that stage (7:42am) the police inside the premises had found two dead bodies, and that one of these bodies was male, whilst the other was a female.

    By 8:10am, a further three bodies had been found upstairs, and at that stage, senior officers entered the house from their vantage point at the forward control point in a nearby outbuilding...

    By 8:10am, all five bodies had been accounted for, two dead downstairs, and three dead upstairs...

    Why were these police radio and communication log contents, concealed and withheld from Bamber, and his legal team, and from the court which tried him for these murders? If there was a perfectly simple explanation for errors to have been made in the recording of these messages, why didn't the police feel confident in disclosing them, so that the jury could consider it fully?

    How could there have been two dead bodies downstairs and three bodies upstiars by 8:10am, and yet by the time the police surgeon, DR Craig, arrived at the scene, by 8:41am, there was only one dead body downstairs, and four bodies upstiars?

    How could there be a displacement of one dead female body, from downstairs, to upstairs, between the recorded messages in the police radio, and communication logs, and the accounts given by the police inside the house by 8:42am? The jury were entitled to hear this evidence, and to consider any explanation given by the police to account for this rather serious and inexplicable contradiction...

    Now you can suggest all you like that there was not a police conspiracy, but the facts seem to suggest otherwise, at least in my honest opinion...


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    Quote Originally Posted by jeffers68 View Post
    Ah please Mike, come on, you are clearly an intelligent guy, first Sheila shot them now the police it seems that everyone did it apart from Bamber. Poor Bamber everybody else is wrong and he is right...the whole world was out to frame him. I hope one day Bamber will actually show some remorse, face up to slaughtering his family and say what really happened. I wont hold my breath however. Look at Scott Peterson, OJ etc. they are all innocent arent they.... Heck even Manson thinks he did no wrong. Bamber deserves to stay in jail for the rest of his life.
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    jeffers68;9148132:- Lets get a few facts right before we proceed any further, on this topic. It would appear that someone tampered with the batch of crime scene bullets, and cartridge cases, and that person cannot and was not Jeremy Bamber. At least five of the bullet entry wounds had a diameter of 1/2 inch, according to the original autopsy report completed by the pathologist, Dr peter Venezis. Eley .22 bullets do not make 1/2 inch diameter bullet entry holes, when fired into a victim at close quarters. In another example, one of the two bullets (PV/20) which the pathologist removed from the side of Sheila's neck / throat had been fragmented at the time he removed it from her body. This fragmented bullet (PV/20) had been xrayed insitu inside Sheila's neck / throat before the pathologist removed it, and yet by 20 September 1985, and the time it was submitted to the lab' by Essex police, to be examined by the ballistic expert, it had manifested itself into a WHOLE bullet, which the ballistic expert linked to the family owned Anshulz rifle found upon her body...

    Furthermore, at least four bullet cases were added to the main bedroom scenario by the police acting upon a direction given to them by Detective Inspector Miller, who ordered that four original exhibits found in the main bedroom which contained the original exhibit references DRH/1, DRH/2, DRH/3 and DRH/4, SHOULD BE ALTERED AND MADE EXHIBIT REFERENCES DRH/50, DRH/51, DRH/52 AND DRH/53 RESPECTIVELY...

    Once these exhibit references were altered four bullet cases were introduced into the bedroom scenario, bearing the vacated exhibit references, DRH/1, DRH/2, DRH/3 and DRH/4...

    A second rifle was photographed to be leaning against the main bedroom window, which had been spotted there by a trained firearms instructor, WPC Jeapes, some 15 minutes before the raid team forced their way into the building, and yet Essex police maintain that there was only one rifle found in the main bedroom at the time Sheila's body was found there, and that the rifle was found on top of her body at that stage. Yet how could there have been a rifle leaning up against the bedroom window which was spotted there by WPC Jeapes at about 7:15am, and there be a rifle on top of Sheila's body, when the police say they found her body on the bedroom floor, upon entry into the bedroom, the same rifle could not have been in two different places at the same time, it could not have been leaning up against the bedroom window and be on top of Sheila's body at one and the same time?

    There had to have been two different rifles in the main bedroom, or the rifle which ended up on Sheila's body, was brought to the bedroom by the police, from elsewhere at the scene, and planted upon her body...

    It is also known that there were a series of unofficial test firings of the family owned rifle and control ammunition before the rifle and the crime scene bullets were submitted to the lab' to be examined on 20 September 1985. More importantly, the exhibit bags which contained the crime scene bullets and cartridge cases had been cut open and resealed before they had been submitted to the lab' on that occasion.

    Somebody tampered with the batch of crime scene bullets and bullet cases, the facts are there for all who care to look and see, and Jeremy Bamber can have had no involvement in the tampering of this crucial aspect of the evidence, because these bullets and bullet cases were under the control and in the possession of Essex police...

    These are the facts which make it possible for the police to have fired shots during the incident.


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    Quote Originally Posted by ian45 View Post
    Mike, Could it not be that DCI 'Taff' Jones was well known to be an arrogant and uncompromising man. I put it to you that Jones did not want to blame Bamber because it would have made a mockery of his original findings, and as such would have completely discredited him as a Detective Chief Inspector.
    Something he would have found totally unbearable.
    Moreover, if your theory is correct, then would it not be prudent that others that were in on the secret (there were a number of police officers present) would have equally objected to blaming Bamber for the murders? However, it seems they did not. Ironically, Jones was later quite rightly, discredited and exposed. The very thing he feared the most.
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    Ian45:- It may well be true that former DCI "Taff" Jones, was considered by some to be a rather uncompromising man. However, I disagree with your suggestion that other officers who were in on the conspiracy, are all in agreement that there was no evidence that Bamber had played any role in the deaths of his father, Mother and their two grandchildren, and to this day, these police officers still believe that Sheila killed everyone. I would like to name who these police officers are, so that you can be sure that we are talking about the senior officers inside the house, at the scene, at the material time, who know that Jeremy Bamber did not kill Sheila Caffell in the main bedroom, and that he did not stage manage her body there to make it look like she had taken her own life:-

    PS Adams
    PI Montgomery
    PI Miller
    DCI Harris
    DCI Gibbons
    DCI "Taff" Jones
    DI Cook

    and this belief is supported by the then ACC Peter Simpson, who was kept informed and up to date by DCI Harris who used a land line at the scene to inform him of the developments concerning how Sheila's body which was originally found in the kitchen upon entry to the premises at 7:37am, ended up in the main bedroom upstiars by 8:30am, that same morning...

    None of the above police officers have ever gone on public record as saying that they know or believe that Jeremy Bamber killed his family, or that he killed his sister in the main bedroom at whf and stage managed it to make it look like or appear as though she had taken her own life...

    However, other police officers who played only minor roles at the scene, and who incidentally did not get a chance to get inside the premises at the material time the bodies were discovered, have gone on record as saying that they believe Jeremy killed his family and that he made out a case for Sheila having been responsible...

    Those involved in the conspiracy inside the farmhouse, know better than to say things which are not true, but choose rather to satay silent, in the hope that the conspiracy they were all involved in will wash over, and the crimes these particular officers committed will continue to remain uncovered and undetected...

    There were at least eight senior police officers, either at the scene or at DHQ who knew the truth about what took place inside whf, and these police officers know that jeremy Bamber did ot kill any of the five victims of the whf tragedy, and that he certainly did not, and could not have murdered his sister, Sheila Caffell, in the main bedroom at the farmhouse, because her body was originally found downstairs in the kitchen when the police first entered the building at precisely 7:37am...

    If you can find one reference anywhere. which can be attributed to any of the aforementioned eight or so senior Essex police officers, stating that Jeremy was the killer, then I might sit up and take a bit of notice about what you are saying, but you are going to find (if you do not already know) that none of these senior police officers will aspire to that view because they know it would be, and is not true...

    Jeremy Bamber is innocent, he always has been innocent, and this group of senior officers know that he was and is innocent...

    Try to find any information where one or more of these senior officers has expressed the views you are relying upon and yopu are going to be highly disappointed because none of them dare step out of line and say something which they know will or might one day come back to bite their backsides...

    That day is looming large...


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    Animal blood found on silencer suppressed (May 1986)...

    Two lots of animal blood which were found on the silencer, in May 1986, were suppressed, because it was known scientifically at the time, that blood type AK/1 could be associated with or derived from animal blood...

    Whether anyone likes this or not, that was the true state of play in May 1986...

    By that stage, of course, the silencer which had previously been dismantled and examined by DI Cook (SOC) on 29 August 1985, and by the ballistic expert, Malcolm Fletcher, after the silencers submission to the Lab' on 30 August 1985, had thrown up a small dried flake which when analyzed produced the following blood group activity which was attributed by the blood expert, John Hayward, as originating exclusively from Sheila Caffell:-

    A, EAP BA, AK1 and HP 2-1

    It was the inclusion of blood type AK/1 which persuaded the blood expert, John Hayward, that the blood was unique to Sheila, rather than to any of the other four victims of the whf shootings...

    Without AK/1, in the result, the blood could have derived from June Bamber, or from a mixture of Ralph and June Bamber, or Sheila Caffell...

    Without AK/1, the blood could not be suggested as being unique or exclusive to any one of the five victims...

    But AK/1 was not excluded, it was included, and relied upon by the blood expert, to enable him to conclude that the blood from the flake was unique and exclusive to Sheila Caffell, and in pursuit of this conclusion, the presence of the two animals blood types found on the silencer was ignored and covered up completely...

    Was it legitimate for the blood expert to disregard the presence of the two animals blood found upon the silencer?

    At the very least, the presence of the two animals blood (AK/1) found upon the silencer should have been disclosed to Bamber and his legal team, and to the court which tried Bamber for these murders, so that it could be taken into account as to the possibility that the flake could have been contaminated with animal blood and human blood, and thereby serving to make the results obtained from the flake meaningless and inadmissible...

    Concealment of the two animal blood types from the silencer, was a serious irregularity which cannot be overlooked in view of the significance which has been attributed to the presence of AK/1 blood type in the flake, making it unique and exclusive to Sheila, when it may not have done...

    In this respect the court was deceived by the blood expert and his assistants who covered up the presence of the two animal blood found on the silencer and for the possibility that the AK/1 blood type found on and in the silencer may have derived from one or more of these animals, rather than be unique and exclusive to Sheila...


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    PS Woodcock Statement is doctored as part of cover up...

    The witness statement of PS Woodcock (firearms officer) who was amongst the first police officers to enter the farmhouse (whf) at about 7:30am, on the morning, 7 August 1985, has been doctored as part of the cover up surrounding the discovery of Sheila Caffells body in the region of the kitchen and the fact that she was found with a solitary gunshot wound to her throat downstairs at about 7:37am, which led the police to mistakenly believe that she was in fact dead, and that she had taken the life of Ralph whose body was also found to be present in the kitchen, and that she had then taken her own life by way of suicide, by shooting herself once in the downstairs part of the farmhouse...

    The circumstances involving how Sheila's body had became displaced from the region of the kitchen to the upstairs bedroom, and everything else which had happened or occurred thereafter is what is believed to have formed part and parcel of PS Woodcocks original version of his witness statement, but because of a decision taken by high ranking police officers who were all involved in the cover up, his statement was edited and the crucial information removed...

    Part of this cover up included the requirement for PS Woodcock to re-type an additional page of content (Page 10) so that the edited version of his statement could be matched up or linked as though it had always consisted of so few pages. The contents of the re-typed page 10 deal with the entry on the first occasion into the kitchen where the bodies of Ralph and Sheila are now known to have been found...

    A number of page contents are missing from PS Woodcocks statement, which deal with the entry into the kitchen at the material time (around 7:37am) which coincides with the entries in the police radio and communication logs, where it records for the fact that the body of one dead male and the body of one dead female was found in the region of the kitchen upon entry...

    The configuration of PS Woodcocks doctored witness statement will now be discussed...
    Last edited by Mike Tesko; 10-25-2009 at 04:50 PM.


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    The Cover Up...

    In addition to the senior police officers who knew the truth about the circumstances surrounding the death of Sheila Caffell at the scene, listed below:-

    (1) PS Adams
    (2) PI Montgomery
    (3) PI Miller
    (4) DCI Harris
    (5) DCI Gibbons
    (6) DCI "Taff" Jones
    (7) DI Cook
    (8) ACC Peter Simpson

    A number of lesser ranked police officers can be added:-

    (9) DS Davidson (SOC)
    (10)DC Hammersley (SOC)
    (11) PC Bird (SOC)
    (12) PC Wright (the Coroners officer)
    (13) DR Craig (the police surgeon).

    Add to this the names and rank of all the firearms officers who actually entered the farmhouse that morning, referred to or which became known as the "Raid Team":-

    (14) PS Woodcock
    (15) PC Collins
    (16) PC Delgado
    (17) PC Alexander-Smart
    (18) AP/s Manners
    (19) PC Hall.

    The following police officers who were present at the scene, on 7 August 1985, but who did not play any role in the initial cover up, included:-

    (20) DS "Stan" Jones

    PS Bews
    PC Myall
    PS Saxby.

    However, DS Jones (20) did become embroiled in the cover up until much later once the nature of the investigation changed from being one of four murders and a suicide, into a full scale murder investigation, on or around 6 September 1985...

    PC Whiddon was only an exhibits officer at the time of this investigation and played no role at the scene, and neither did DCS "Mick" Ainsley who was put in charge of the new investigation under a different crime reference number of SC/786/85...

    The evidence recorded in the original investigation under the crime reference number SC/688/85 was edited and carried over in its edited version into the new file which was the material which was used and relied upon to prosecute Jeremy as the murderer...

    Based on the now known facts, there was a group of at least 20 police officers who were actively involved in the cover up (listed above) in one way or another, and each one of these police officers has got a great deal to lose should the truth ever become accepted in the public domain...

    Of particular interest, is that not one of these 20 named police officers testified during the trial of Jeremy Bamber, and with the exception of DS "Stan" Jones, not one of these other 19 police officers have ever expressed a view or an opinion that they thought that Sheila was not responsible for the deaths of the other family members, or for taking her own life...

    It is now time for the involvement of these police officers to be investigated, on the basis that they were all involved in a wicked conspiracy surrounding the circumstances of how Sheila Caffell died at the scene, after the police gained access to the farmhouse...

    Every one of these 20 police officers knows that Jeremy Bamber did not shoot and kill his sister Sheila Caffell in the main bedroom, and that he did not, and could not have stage managed her body there, to make out a false case for her having committed suicide, there...
    Last edited by Mike Tesko; 10-25-2009 at 05:19 PM. Reason: title not added...