Friday, January 14, 2011

Michelle Bettles / Glenis Carruthers / Sandra Hardyman

Glenis and Sandra both members of The Fisherfolk'

Meetings held at...

Gresham School

Michelle Bettles murdered over Easter weekend 2002 in Norfolk...was thera Christian meeting and were any members from Clifton College there?

Was there a meeting of 'The Fisher folk' that week-end?

Were all Hardymans including Stanley Hardyman a member of this Christian group ?

Michelle Bettles (22)

From Norwich, Norfolk

Murdered Thursday 28 March 2002, Norfolk

Michelle Bettles, a drug addict and prostitute, with three small children, none of whom were in her care, she was last seen alive in the Queens Road area of Norwich. Her fully-clothed body was founded in woodland off Podmore Lane, Podmore, near Scarning, Dereham, three days later.

Michelle had been working as a prostitute in Norwich. She is thought to have travelled from her home in Dereham Road into the red light district on the Thursday evening. It was believed she walked along St.Benedicts towards the city centre. Michelle had made arrangements with two men for that evening . One of those men was from a business in Prince of Wales Road in Norwich, and the other was a taxi driver from the Thetford area.
At about 21:30 on Saturday 30th March, people working close to the scene at Scarning where Michelle's body was found heard an engine "racing." Soon afterwards, a "Japanese type" 4 x 4 vehicle was seen driving at speed towards Dereham, away from the spot where Michelle's body was found.

A man walking his dog in Rushmeadow Road, Scarning near Dereham, found Michelle's body at approximately 10:15 on Sunday 31st March. The cause of her death was manual strangulation.

Some items of Michelle's personal property was missing: a long black leather coat, a black fabric jacket with a fur collar, a long black leather coat with wide lapels and belt, and possibly a tear on the left shoulder, a black hair brush with cream bristles on one side only and about eight inches in length, as well as disposable cream or clear coloured "Clipper" lighter or lighters, a pack of Golden Virginia or Old Holborn tobacco, and Rizla cigarette papers, and possibly a handbag or other personal effects.

(What if this is another Jo Yeates type of murder, coat and bag missing, but body may have been dumped after being murdered inside someones home, or mention of sexual abuse..still wearing her boots and Glenis 's sandals were found near by...once again manual one would steal her coat it would be recognised ,so again a body found without a coat and bag missing...?)
Michelle was approximately 5ft. 4in. tall, very slim with long dark wavy hair. She had a mole on her nose and distinctive thick dark eyebrows. When found she was wearing a red T-shirt, red wrap around skirt, beige tights and long zipped black boots. She was the mother of three young children. She had lived in Norwich for the majority of her life, but also had connections in Dereham and Swaffham. She became a heroin addict and prostitute.

Telephone Norfolk Police: 01953 424242.

We have enjoyed another very busy year in the Christian Forum. Our weekly Wednesday evening meetings in room 13 have attracted between 10 and 35 pupils each week.

Many of the outside speakers are leaders at Iwerne Holidays or full time staff members of that organisation. Iwerne Holdiays organise Christian holiday parties in Norfolk as well as other activities and Clifton has a strong link with these holidays at the moment. Over the last few years around 30 Cliftonians have attended one of the holidays or the Easter revision week.

Last seen Holy Thursday March 28

Body found Easter Sunday....

Easter and Christmas deaths ???

AND another 4x4 involved or seen ...

The murder of Michelle Bettles was one of a series of prostitute murders in Norfolk going back to 1992 when the first one, Natalie Pearman, was killed:

 It was later thought that Steve Wright, the Ipswich prostitute murderer, was involved, especially as he was the landlord of the pub where Natalie Pearman was a regular. The police say, however, that he was not connected with them. He also worked on the QE2 with Suzy Lamplugh, and was on leave at the same time she disappeared.

20 miles from Holt to Scarning

Christian Group in song...from the  'Fisherfolk'

Both members of 'Fisherfolk' the comment in the above article ' It was not that SORT' of party 'makes me wonder was it a 'Fisherfolk' sort of party...Religious groups attract a lot of very strange people.

A little more info picked up from DS.

Iwerne Holidays (from their site) were founded in 1930 and used a public school in Iwerne Minster for 'about 60 years' from the beginning of WW2 for summer retreats until moving to Holt in Norfolk. Bournemouth is around 25 miles away from Iwerne Minster....

Sandra Court was found murdered close to the Avon Causeway near Hurn (this is in the sticks but is a commonly used road) on May 3 1986 (a Bank Holiday weekend). She was strangled with minimum force and her shoes were missing. There was no obvious sign of a sexual motive. Suzi Lamplugh disappeared soon afterwards and the cases were certainly linked in the local media .

The trail of evidence left by the perp seems to indicate someone from out of the immediate area as Picket Post is a junction on the A31 which leads to the M27/M3 (Southampton/London) heading east or Ringwood/Dorchester/Blandford/Exeter heading west. It is not the most direct route back into Bournemouth or Poole from the dump site.

Another very bizarre coincidence is that starting from Sandra Court there's a 8 year gap between the main victims, mentioned on here, who were murdered and found in a similar fashion. Sandra Court 1986, Lindsay Rimer 1994, Michelle Bettles 2002 and Joanna 2010.
In turn RPS planning is linked to Joanna Yates! her work place Hyland Edgar Driver and RPS planning are linked to the planning application FOUGHT BY Christopher Jefferies and Mr Peter Rendle ,

Joanna Yates lived under the same roof as people who hated her company and boss she worked for and her job.she would not know the bad blood and feelings by Chris Jefferies and Peter Rendal when she saw the advert for £750 a month flat.

Yes, there were weelie bins at the property. These were stored on the left hand side of the drive, out of sight near to where the cars parked. The bins serviced all of the flats.

only imo, I would suggest that cj and Mr hardyman would have taken responsibility for moving all of the bins from there to the kerbside. The long term residents took different roles in looking after the property. I have seen cj bringing the bins back into the property, but not actually putting them out.

Mr Hardyman takes the bulk of gardening work.

Did you live at the flats?

  • Lawrence

  • no I worked ther as a window cleaner 98-06

  • What do you know about Peter Stanley.


    lly Posted by purrfect_catlov View Post
    EXACTLY....No no no no no no no no I am sorry I dont believe this one bit.

    He is away for 2 days and he must have tried to contact her to say when he is coming home. Its a 3.5 hours drive normally so he would have left at say 3.30ish .... So he didnt send her a text or want to tell her he was coming home can you get me something to eat I will be starving when I get in OR god I have missed you cant wait to see you.......

    ODD ODD ODD would come to mind when he got no answer to that one.............

    Any partner would be home when their hubby or boyfriend came in after being away 2 days bloody hell I couldnt go 2 days without my husband at that age lol for carnal reasons lol.

    So most would be there at home not glavinating out with mates.

    I DONT CARE IF YOU ARE DIFFERENT it doesnt equate.....

    So when he got home she wasnt there, no no no no no you would panic like mad I dont care who you are UNLESS of course you had a row before you went and just thought she was still being a bit huffy but was she like that.

    No this guy was either in denial to something happening......or had some awful sickening feeling he could have put her in some way...........

    I dont get it no way no how.......

    The cat would have had me ringing the police just for advice ..... not wait 4 hours...ARRRGGGH I just dont get it...........

    Posts being pulled from DS this one in case it goes makes VERY GOOD observations----


    I have been lurking since the start of this one, it’s my first post, please be kind.

    I agree and say forget Greg, regarding his demeanour etc at the press conference, how would you feel going through his current emotions, lost a love one, finger pointing, it being speculated Jo had a secret lover, the confirmed inviting text to a friend of her brothers, and Jo stopping for condoms, its no surprise really, and this is only what we know of.

    Has anyone taken this view……………During this investigation the police have linked one of the suspects to the Caruthers murders possibly strong enough to get a prosecution but are holding back for want of more evidence relating to Joanna,s murder, I believe there is DNA from the Caruthers case, I’m sure this was stated somewhere.
    It would not look good to solve the 1974 murder and not this one, I know it has been stated they feel the crimes are not related but they would if for a reason, after all it does narrow the field of suspects down somewhat, two of them certainly knew Greg was away for the weekend.
    I feel the recent unusual carefully scripted conference was targeted at someone very close to the flat of Jo & Greg and that is why the police have stated the crimes are not related in order to make who they suspect slip up.

    My interest is I have 2 teenage daughters, and would be delighted if they grew up to be like Joanna with a good job and a smiley face. exbobby....